Marina Slip Fees

Steve Dion · Apr 8, 2011

For those of you who are paying those low monthly fee you can probably thank the tax payers of the community where you are located. I doubt that a private concern could pay the mortgage, taxes, utilities, insurance etc for such a small monthly/annual.

We are in a private marina that is sailboats only. We are paying $6.90/ft/mo with everything included.

gpd955 · Apr 8, 2011

It's an ocean! We are in a harbor with no less that 30ft of water at low (except in one small spot next to the USCG station, which of course i found).

Compared to other parts of the country it is rather expensive but it is comparable to other coastal NJ marinas. I don't think the location makes the extra money worth it BUT our dockmates are and i would have difficulty leaving them no matter how much money I save! When we retire we are out of here though so I will save quite a bit of $$ then.

I see quite a bit of San Diego people here and we are considering that area when the time comes.

soling42 · Apr 8, 2011

Long term agreements are just that....agreements. Disagreements are often merely how each person reacts to a simple request. I suspect the answer to your request could have been handled with more diplomacy or maybe either of you were having other issues unrelated. You need to let it go before it sours your relationship with a guy who needs to maintain his eqt and may be the one to rescue your boat some day.

As for Sarasota, $18.70ft mth with annual agreement, includes only elec and cable tv at our local marina. No pool/no casino with show girls(the injustice)/No club house, etc... I'm not smiling if that was my only option. OR $250 mth for a mooring when the field is done(maybe in 6mths).

Luckily we found a nice local owner with a vacant dock in a safe neighborhood on protected water close to the Gulf and great bay sailing. No elec, rickety dock, bring a long hose for water, no overnights on-board, super shallow (2') on low tide for $100mth Oct to May then our 26 comes home for the broiling season with no rent due if we're not there.

With kids in college I can do this, and hope it's available next season. Dock space cost in paradise has been the biggest limiter to going into a bigger boat and I guess we're mostly content with what we have.

Mike

joker460 · Apr 8, 2011

We have dockuminums here in the bay where I'm located.

You purchase the dock and area 16'x45'. Pay a conduminum fee that includes electricty, maintenance, etc of $112/month.

You can rent/lease/sell if not used. Pays for itself in 10 years.

FourPoints · Apr 8, 2011

here in Connecticut normal rates are between $90 and $120 per foot for the summer season (April 1- Nov 31), and around $65 a foot for the winter.

I finally made my way through the waiting list to get space at the city dock this year, and my marina chose to match the $66/ft price (includes tax) instead of having me leave. I also take my boat into the bronx (City Island) for winter where I can get hauled and launched in the spring for $33/ft + tax

so for anyone adding it up, I pay a combined price of $99/ft for the year, or $2,673 + some tax

most people around here pay about double that though...

duality · Apr 8, 2011

i should think about moving! mayor daley gets $5700 from me for a 40 foot slip. included is the water and power! oh, thats from may 1 to oct 31!

gpd955 · Apr 8, 2011

duality said:
i should think about moving! mayor daley gets $5700 from me for a 40 foot slip. included is the water and power! oh, thats from may 1 to oct 31!

Yikes! I don't feel that bad now! Well, NJ is notoriously high so for now, I just accept it and look forward to the day we can move on.

Scott T-Bird · Apr 8, 2011

duality ... city resident?

I was under the impression (when I lived in Chicago) that city residents pay about half the rate that suburbanites pay ... is that right or different now? For those of you who didn't know, all the marinas on the Chicago lakefront are Chicago Park District, not private (unless I've been gone for so long that things have really changed).

FastOlson, I also had to wonder who subsidizes your low rate?

I have a mooring at a County Park and the Morris County tax payer (I'm one) subsidizes my mooring fee, which increased to $575 this year. I pay far more for winter storage and services at a private marina.

kpgraci · Apr 8, 2011

Since we're comparing...

30' slip, concrete piers, gated parking, on site security, $1200 /yr, billed quarterly. Electric is $15/mo for the service, then Entergy bills for usage. Water is free. Neighbors are friendly.

shawnee_sailor · Apr 8, 2011

Well, I pay approx 1200/yr. That includes slip with electricity, dry storage for the winter, clubhouse w/showers and so forth. Granted, this at Lake Perry, KS, but the company's good...

FourPoints · Apr 8, 2011

FourPoints said:
so for anyone adding it up, I pay a combined price of $99/ft for the year, or $2,673 + some tax

Btw, this doesn't include electrical (but i am allowed to use shore power for power tools and the like), no showers or anything. Just a dock and a water hookup

stephen Penny · Apr 8, 2011

So what would you pay for a nice facilities, wind protection, warm, great view of the San Francisco bay, including Golden Gate and Bay bridges, San Francisco skyline, Angel Island, Alcatraz, Tiburon and east bay hills with great restaurants in walking distance? Not to mention great sailing conditions and marinas for overnight stays.

FastOlson · Apr 8, 2011

Location and economics

Rick said:
Hey FastOlson I get up that way quite a bit and when the weather, well its not raining, it is quite beautiful. Always thought a sail on the Columbia would be fun. What is that current there anyway?
You dont even want to know what guys like Rick D up in Long Beach and I pay for our slips. Well multiply your number by 3.5 for San Diego... a 35 foot slip. It is San Diego. Our sailing window is 365 days a year. I suppose its not the cost of living so much as it is the location.
Cheers

We sometimes call it "side hill sailing" and the current runs from a half knot to over two...
We have lower wages, lower cost of living, and a far less desirable watery sailing venue. Lots of light air, which can be good and bad.
(The photo in my album is our boat out for a summer evening sail.)
The good news is that average wage-earners can afford to own sailboats here.
Most of us would have to join-own a boat in a partnership if we lived in the Seattle area, for instance.
:cry:

L

Terry411 · Apr 9, 2011

Holland michigan condo rent out unused slips elec water pool bathhouse 35 foot slip they let me put my 37 in $ 2400 . Let me in early, end of march early april stay in as long as I dare in fall end of oct early nov. Have to get pulled up the lake before to much snow they dont do it if theres snow on ground. Pull power wash set in cradle store launch $1037. A 40 foot slip at this marina $4200.

duality · Apr 9, 2011

Re: duality ... city resident?

scott, you are right. i pay a 25% surcharge for being a suburbanite!

mike

Cool Beans · Apr 9, 2011

Wow, I only pay $195 a month for a slip now. . .water is free, electric is metered. . .it's a DIY boat yard though, so no pools or parks. . .does have a shower and bathroom though

Even the most expensive marinas that allow liveaboards around here come in under $500 a month for me. . .and that's after fee's, Wi-Fi, elec, pump outs, etc. . .and includes access to all the marina groups amenities at any of there marinas, like pool access, gym access, restaurants. . .

hella cheaper than a crappy little apartment around here

Dalliance · Apr 9, 2011

Scott T-Bird said:
I was under the impression (when I lived in Chicago) that city residents pay about half the rate that suburbanites pay ... is that right or different now? For those of you who didn't know, all the marinas on the Chicago lakefront are Chicago Park District, not private (unless I've been gone for so long that things have really changed).

FastOlson, I also had to wonder who subsidizes your low rate?

I have a mooring at a County Park and the Morris County tax payer (I'm one) subsidizes my mooring fee, which increased to $575 this year. I pay far more for winter storage and services at a private marina.

Chicago's marinas are owned by the Park District, but are now managed by WESTREC. You are correct that city residents pay less, but not 1/2 as much. Non-residents pay a 25% surcharge. Chicago politicians' populist way of soaking rich boat owners (We're all millionaire yachtsmen here, right? LOL) without losing votes I suppose. As a city resident, I paid a little over $3,400. for a 30 foot slip for this season. Can't really complain about that, though at least 19 or 20 of the other 22 boat owners on my dock may feel differently. They're all from the suburbs!
By the way, If Duality wants to move to the city, I can direct him to several very cool loft condominium projects I've designed recently.

kenn · Apr 10, 2011

Rasselas36 said:
I'll pay the $35 and be glad I have a slip.

I think that's the wisest course. It's a drop in the bucket of your total commitment, and not worth the fight.

Hopefully you can restore good relations with the marina. Having a cordial, friendly relationship with the marina is worth alot more than $35, both financially and emotionally.

Scott T-Bird · Apr 10, 2011

Sounds reasonable ...

25% doesn't sound like too much! I think I'd go back to living in Chicago in a heartbeat for the sailing, but the season is too short. May and even June can feel like winter on the water.

Suburbanites really don't have many options though, do they? Wilmette may have a handful of slips (if not taken by residents, and then you would have to go all the way to Waukegan or Winthrop, right? No place to go if you are a suburbanite west of the city.

So many great places to live ... I think I'd find a place in Wrigleyville ... Cubs, Montrose Harbor or Belmont Harbor, the Wild Hare ... what a life that would be!