My Girl is starting to get it together!

[emergpa1]

I would like some suggestions for covering the approx 4 1/2 " hole left by removing an non-working gauge on the starboard cabin/cockpit wall just above the galley sink on my Oday 26. I can put the instrument (nonworking) back in, but wondered if there were any clever ideas. For example, I thought about fashioning a hardwood cover with a plaque with our name, or maybe even an round opening port. Maybe it would be a good place for a small wench handle holder, or a compass.


Also below are pictures of the nearly competed interior. When i finish that, i will turn my attention back to the deck, and rigging. I still have to mount the travelers, mast plate, and winches.


I fashioned the bilge covers from cherry plywood. I sealed the plywood with several coats of epoxy (as i did any plywood used in the boat including all holes and saw cuts). Except i did not seal areas that I was going to stain and finish.

The stain is a custom mix of "shaker pine" and "red mahogany". The polyurethane I used, after the first coat, was Cabbot Semi-gloss. I ended up liking it alot better than the "miniwax" brand. It had a harder deeper finish. As always, surface prep is far more important than what you use.


You can see how i painted the cabin sides in the forward head instead of backing them with carpet/liner. It seemed to me that would be a cleaner finish, and dryer to boot.

 

[emergpa1]

I decided to make a piece of painted trim to edge the carpet instead of buying the cheezy rubber trim (which i probably woulda bought if i could have found it.)!

Also you can see the bottom of the bilge cover sealed with epoxy. I have noticed that the epoxy side always feels a little waxy. I do not like it as a finish. And it doesn't hold paint well either, even when properly primed.

keith

 

[emergpa1]

oops left out picture

Oops, left out the picture of the hanging locker. the cassett toilet is not in yet, but goes on the floor. also you can see a piece of trim at the bottome that i was supposed to stain and finish before i installed. now i have to tape and stain, finish in place.

 

[Shoaldrafter]

He keeps looking for easy way instead of right way ...

Keith said, "I would like some suggestions for covering the approx 4 1/2 " hole left by removing an non-working gauge on the starboard cabin/cockpit wall just above the galley sink on my Oday 26."

He keeps looking for the easy cop out instead of the professional way of glassing over and making surface look like it never was.

He sounds like a member of congress? a politician?

Certainly would not play football for Vince Lombardi.

Ed K
26
see: http://www.middlebury.net/op-ed/global-warming-01.html

I would like some suggestions for covering the approx 4 1/2 " hole left by removing an non-working gauge on the starboard cabin/cockpit wall just above the galley sink on my Oday 26. I can put the instrument (nonworking) back in, but wondered if there were any clever ideas. For example, I thought about fashioning a hardwood cover with a plaque with our name, or maybe even an round opening port. Maybe it would be a good place for a small wench handle holder, or a compass.


Also below are pictures of the nearly competed interior. When i finish that, i will turn my attention back to the deck, and rigging. I still have to mount the travelers, mast plate, and winches.


I fashioned the bilge covers from cherry plywood. I sealed the plywood with several coats of epoxy (as i did any plywood used in the boat including all holes and saw cuts). Except i did not seal areas that I was going to stain and finish.

The stain is a custom mix of "shaker pine" and "red mahogany". The polyurethane I used, after the first coat, was Cabbot Semi-gloss. I ended up liking it alot better than the "miniwax" brand. It had a harder deeper finish. As always, surface prep is far more important than what you use.


You can see how i painted the cabin sides in the forward head instead of backing them with carpet/liner. It seemed to me that would be a cleaner finish, and dryer to boot.

 

[Raftco]

Your interior is looking very nice, well done. I wish I could say the same about my boat, but it's a work in progress.

As for your question, the correct way would be to glass it, fair it, and apply new gelcoat. It's not too difficult to do depending on your experience. I took the easier route and trimmed out some 'starboard' and sanded the edges. I put a compass on one side and a depth finder on the other. I used some 5200 to seal the starboard to the bulkhead and screwed it in with stainless screws and finish washers. This isn't the ideal way, but I knew I would not be able to match the gelcoat very well because my boat is 30 years old. It covered up the 2 large holes, it is easy to remove if I wanted to or someone else wanted to repair it in the future, and I have so many other projects that I needed a quick fix so I could move on to larger things. Good luck!

 

[emergpa1]

Keith said, "I would like some suggestions for covering the approx 4 1/2 " hole left by removing an non-working gauge on the starboard cabin/cockpit wall just above the galley sink on my Oday 26."

He keeps looking for the easy cop out instead of the professional way of glassing over and making surface look like it never was.

He sounds like a member of congress? a politician?

Certainly would not play football for Vince Lombardi.

Ed K
26
see: http://www.middlebury.net/op-ed/global-warming-01.html

Dang, that's pretty harsh comments, and with nothing positive to say..your sort of a bummer dude...:neutral:...but all opinions will be considered.

Anyway, i disagree with that approach. I've done enough finish fiberglass/epoxy work by now to know how difficult it is to do. The area concerned is probably the most visible to passengers on the boat of any area. Getting a strong repair is pretty easy. Getting a repair that looks professional and matching gelcoat on a boat that is 25 years old is more time than it's worth, given the options. Beside it is the right place to mount a compass or bracket. In my opinion.

Raftco, you repairs are excellent. That is exactly what i am wanting to do. Could you tell me what make that compass is? I would like to look that up online!

 

[Raftco]

I used a 'Plastimo' bulkhead compass that I bought on sale at my local West Marine. It has a red light, a measurement for angle of heal, and since I had another hole on the intererior of the cabin it comes through to the other side also.

Here is the link to the compass

Here is a picture of the interior, I had to cover the same 2 holes on the interior bulkhead. The great part about this stuff is it is so easy to cut, sand edges, and it has a pretty clean look if you do it right. Good luck!

 

[emergpa1]

Love it I will check out the link! Right now i'm in the shop fashioning a forward hatch trim ring out of some red oak plank. I'll stain that with a mix of red mahoganyand Puritan pine to get it to match the teak. U just can' get teak plank around here

 

[Shoaldrafter]

One is enough ...

It was said in this thread, "Getting a repair that looks professional and matching gelcoat on a boat that is 25 years old is more time than it's worth, given the options."

Matching gelcoat is not that difficult to get an acceptable match if you are willing to do the work and have pride in craftsmanship.

If something is worth doing, then it worth doing right.

Many years ago, but in many of our lifetimes there was a football player named Jerry Kramer who wrote about playing football in Green Bay for Vince Lombardi the following:

"Winning isn't everything. Trying to win is." Vince insisted on both a winning attitude and winning. The proper winning attitude was to struggle constantly to improve, to work to the maximum of one' ability, and then to push beyond it toward perfection.

He not only tried to motivate his players to adopt a winning attitude, he also demanded that they have it. Otherwise they would get a "one way ticket" out no matter who they were. "Winning is not a sometime thing here, it is an all the time thing. You don't win once in a while, you don't do things right once in a while, you do them right all the time."

Try to do it right and listen to that voice on your right shoulder...

Ed K
26

Dang, that's pretty harsh comments, and with nothing positive to say..your sort of a bummer dude...:neutral:...but all opinions will be considered.

Anyway, i disagree with that approach. I've done enough finish fiberglass/epoxy work by now to know how difficult it is to do. The area concerned is probably the most visible to passengers on the boat of any area. Getting a strong repair is pretty easy. Getting a repair that looks professional and matching gelcoat on a boat that is 25 years old is more time than it's worth, given the options. Beside it is the right place to mount a compass or bracket. In my opinion.

Raftco, you repairs are excellent. That is exactly what i am wanting to do. Could you tell me what make that compass is? I would like to look that up online!

 

[Raftco]

Love it I will check out the link! Right now i'm in the shop fashioning a forward hatch trim ring out of some red oak plank. I'll stain that with a mix of red mahoganyand Puritan pine to get it to match the teak. U just can' get teak plank around here

Here is one for sale in the gear ads for a good price: http://oday.sailboatowners.com/inde...ce&page=show_ad&catid=19&adid=1337&Itemid=220

 

[Mike Whalen]

How about making an insert to which you could hinge a little plaque or photo. Then you'd have a little hidy hole! That little place to always put your key and wallet. If you do it carefully then you'll have satisfied the perfectionists AND created a necessary item that will be appreciated by the next owner. (and you dont'have to do any damned glass work! I'm with ya on that.)

In my humble opinion everything looks damned good.

Mike

 

[RichBone]

Keith, What is the thickness of the bulkhead and liner where the hole is?

Rich

 

[emergpa1]

Hi, and thanks for the ideas. I like the cubby hole idea.
the hole is 4 1/4 inches in diameter, and it goes all the way through to the cabin. i can't measure it right now, but i would say about 2 inches since it goes through the outer and inner cabin wall.
Keith

 

[emergpa1]

Raftco,
I see you had a tartan 30! I have read those are great boats, and thought that if i ever look around for a "larger sailboat" that i would consider the tartan 30. Did you like it?
keith

 

[Raftco]

Raftco,
I see you had a tartan 30! I have read those are great boats, and thought that if i ever look around for a "larger sailboat" that i would consider the tartan 30. Did you like it?
keith

Yes, we loved it - they are very well built boats and was our family boat for 20 years or so. It was bought new by my grandfather in the late 60's I believe. We sailed to Maine and all around Cape Cod. Unfortunately, we had to get rid of it because of the costs associated for storage and slip fees, but hoping to get back into a Tartan sometime in the future.

 

[RichBone]

Hi, and thanks for the ideas. I like the cubby hole idea.
the hole is 4 1/4 inches in diameter, and it goes all the way through to the cabin. i can't measure it right now, but i would say about 2 inches since it goes through the outer and inner cabin wall.
Keith

Is the space mostly air or is it solid?

Rich

 

[emergpa1]

Rich, sorry about the delayed reply

Is the space mostly air or is it solid?

Rich

Sorry about the delayed reply rich, the area is mostly solid, with a small gap between the inner hard-molded cabin shell, and the outer cored hull. The gap is just small enough on my boat to run a wire through.
Keith

 

[emergpa1]

I can take all that but....

Keith said, "I would like some suggestions for covering the approx 4 1/2 " hole left by removing an non-working gauge on the starboard cabin/cockpit wall just above the galley sink on my Oday 26."

He keeps looking for the easy cop out instead of the professional way of glassing over and making surface look like it never was.

He sounds like a member of congress? a politician?

Certainly would not play football for Vince Lombardi.

Ed K
26
see: http://www.middlebury.net/op-ed/global-warming-01.html

I sound like a Congressman? bad,..... A poliltician? worse,...... but to disappoint the ghost and memory of Vince Lombardi....You have crossed the line!!!!!!