Keith, Rich, Rick, et. al:
During your work rebuilding your boats, have you found the coin from the builders?
Ed K
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During your work rebuilding your boats, have you found the coin from the builders?
Ed K
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Question for Keith, Rich, Rick, et. al?
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When I poked my head down in the lazarett, I found a message on the inside transom that read; "Checked by Fred."
Just who is ed k anyway..maybe he doesn't even have a boat!
Besides Ed K, How do we know you are even you? There are no pictures of your boat, or albums or anything. You could be a girl, or a terrorist trying to infiltrate america's civilian navy or maybe worse.
Keith, if you learn how to
If you learn how to search the archives, you will find some pictures. Your lack of computer skills is not my issue.
My boat has a nickel. :dance: I suspect your boat has one also. But after your childish response I will let someone else tell you where to look. You have a compelling need to learn something about the guys who made your boat.
The guys who made your boats had some historical traditions. When a big building has reached it top, have you seen a tree branch on top. You have to learn traditions. You need to learn history.
I happen to be and have been on several sailboat elist. In fact I know a personal friend of our host, Captain Herring. Imagine that!
But I will not be baited by a "Liberal". :naughty: If you are interested, I will tell you of a few email Blogs and forums for Americans. ~~~~~~ _/) ~~~~~~
Ed K
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Keith,Besides Ed K, How do we know you are even you? There are no pictures of your boat, or albums or anything. You could be a girl, or a terrorist trying to infiltrate america's civilian navy or maybe worse.
If you learn how to search the archives, you will find some pictures. Your lack of computer skills is not my issue.
My boat has a nickel. :dance: I suspect your boat has one also. But after your childish response I will let someone else tell you where to look. You have a compelling need to learn something about the guys who made your boat.
The guys who made your boats had some historical traditions. When a big building has reached it top, have you seen a tree branch on top. You have to learn traditions. You need to learn history.
I happen to be and have been on several sailboat elist. In fact I know a personal friend of our host, Captain Herring. Imagine that!
But I will not be baited by a "Liberal". :naughty: If you are interested, I will tell you of a few email Blogs and forums for Americans.
~~~~~~ _/) ~~~~~~Ed K
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Ed,
I thought that you were joking when you mentioned the coin by the builders, so I went along with it and made up the story about seeing the name under the lazarett hatch on transom. I'll have to start looking a little harder. Who knows, maybe I'll find something in my boat that I never knew was there. :dance:
Joe
I thought that you were joking when you mentioned the coin by the builders, so I went along with it and made up the story about seeing the name under the lazarett hatch on transom. I'll have to start looking a little harder. Who knows, maybe I'll find something in my boat that I never knew was there. :dance:
Joe
Joe,
The coin is a very old ship building tradition. That is if a boat building plant has any old time boat builders.
Since O'Day used three plants, the question is did all three places follow tradition?
Anyway, is there anybody else out there familiar with the tradition? Has anyone else found a coin on their boat?
I would suspect that the bigger boats are more likely to have followed tradition and plants that had a core of experienced boat builders with boat building traditons.
Too bad Keith does not respect boat building traditons, until this gregious lapse of judgement he was doing fine.
ix:Ed K
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Clue for Joe...
Ask your buddy Rudy if he ever heard of the tradition...:bang:
Ed K
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Joe,
Ask your buddy Rudy if he ever heard of the tradition...:bang:
Ed K
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I've found a few loose pennies while working on the boat; probably from the former owner.
I have heard of the tradition of putting a coin under the mast when it's stepped. I wouldn't know where else to look.
I can still remove my compression post, maybe I should put a coin under it just to be sure.
Are two coins bad luck?
Is there a certain denomination or just any coin?
Foreign or domestic?
Where was yours?
Rich
Ok, maybe Ed K really does have a sailboat. He seems to know what he is talking about, but these days of terrorism and upheaval, you just can't be too careful! He might have even been a guy who just has a WAVERUNNERJoe,
The coin is a very old ship building tradition. That is if a boat building plant has any old time boat builders.
Since O'Day used three plants, the question is did all three places follow tradition?
Anyway, is there anybody else out there familiar with the tradition? Has anyone else found a coin on their boat?
I would suspect that the bigger boats are more likely to have followed tradition and plants that had a core of experienced boat builders with boat building traditons.
Too bad Keith does not respect boat building traditons, until this gregious lapse of judgement he was doing fine.
Ed K
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But seriously, thank you guys for all the help. Today I hope to be able to attach my forward hatch. i had to make a wooden ring to raise it up slightly to fit. I will load a pic or two about it....if i can figure out how to to that with my poor computer skills!
You know Captain Herring...well that is pretty good. But I have read all the horatio hornblower series, and some of the Jack Aubry series, and all of "Patrick O'Brians Navy"Keith,
If you learn how to search the archives, you will find some pictures. Your lack of computer skills is not my issue.
My boat has a nickel. :dance: I suspect your boat has one also. But after your childish response I will let someone else tell you where to look. You have a compelling need to learn something about the guys who made your boat.
The guys who made your boats had some historical traditions. When a big building has reached it top, have you seen a tree branch on top. You have to learn traditions. You need to learn history.
I happen to be and have been on several sailboat elist. In fact I know a personal friend of our host, Captain Herring. Imagine that!
But I will not be baited by a "Liberal". :naughty: If you are interested, I will tell you of a few email Blogs and forums for Americans.
Ed K
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And I used to even have my boat in the water!
And I am not a liberal, I am an ex-conservative.
So I think those are pretty good qualifications...for...well I am sure it qualifies me for something pretty impressive.
OK,
I had the mast off the boat and didn't find the coin but..... it could be under the aluminum mast step plate and I have not had that off but I did find scrap rolls of #8 bonding wire under the water tank area in a large void by the hull in addition to all the garbage left behind by all that have worked on the boat.
Now I have been in every nook and cranny on Free Spirit and have never seen a coin except the one place that that it should be in but then again if someone was hording copper wire one has to wonder if they would leave a coin behind.
I had the mast off the boat and didn't find the coin but..... it could be under the aluminum mast step plate and I have not had that off but I did find scrap rolls of #8 bonding wire under the water tank area in a large void by the hull in addition to all the garbage left behind by all that have worked on the boat.
Now I have been in every nook and cranny on Free Spirit and have never seen a coin except the one place that that it should be in but then again if someone was hording copper wire one has to wonder if they would leave a coin behind.
Rad, let us wait to see if Joe can ...
Your location is a traditional location. But that is not where I found my nickel.
Let us wait a couple of days to see if anybody else has found a coin on an O'Day.
Maybe Joe can ask Rudy? Or maybe Rudy knows one of the guys who actually made the boats?
I will say this, it is obvious that the nickel was put there during construction of the boat... And its location caught me off guard. If the guy put one on my boat, I really suspect my boat is not his only nickel...
If we wait a few days, I will take a picture for you guys. Make my 'liberal' denier happy. As Will Rogers said, " There are three kinds of men: The ones that learn by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence and find out for themselves."
But I have to believe that one of the guys who rebuilt there boat would have seen the coin if it were on all boats. But then again, the culprit was good. The boss probably did not know?
Ed K
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addendum: "Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors - and miss." Robert A Heinlein
Rad,
Your location is a traditional location. But that is not where I found my nickel.
Let us wait a couple of days to see if anybody else has found a coin on an O'Day.
Maybe Joe can ask Rudy? Or maybe Rudy knows one of the guys who actually made the boats?
I will say this, it is obvious that the nickel was put there during construction of the boat... And its location caught me off guard. If the guy put one on my boat, I really suspect my boat is not his only nickel...
If we wait a few days, I will take a picture for you guys. Make my 'liberal' denier happy. As Will Rogers said, " There are three kinds of men: The ones that learn by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence and find out for themselves."
But I have to believe that one of the guys who rebuilt there boat would have seen the coin if it were on all boats. But then again, the culprit was good. The boss probably did not know?
Ed K
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addendum: "Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors - and miss." Robert A Heinlein
When I gutted our boat I found a lot of change. Just under $1.00 in various denominations. Is that nickel attached? If not, I would not have known if it was put there on purpose or if it was from the PO. BTW, I finally got to my boat to check it today. I haven't been there in two weeks After many inches of rain, it was bone dry inside. All that work on the hull deck joint this spring paid off:dance:
After many inches of rain, it was bone dry inside. All that work on the hull deck joint this spring paid off:dance:
Hi Ed,
I've heard about this tradition, but I didn't think that it carried through to modern day Fiberglass boats. I will ask Rudy about this the very next time I go down to his shop, which I hope won't be too soon because every time I go there I spend too much money. :cry:
Joe
o.k.,o.k., the coin
Yes the coin is attached. Looks like it was placed there while hull was still setting up comin out of mold. Maybe it was added after, but before white coating was applied to visable surfaces.
It his held by a bluish cured resin or similar stuff. It is on not so visible verticle surface where you can crawl to see it but it is not easily otherwise visible.
That means you have to be laying on your back looking up and behind other molded glass work. So, you are laying on your back and not on sole of cabin.
It is a place not easily seen nor gotten too. But if you work on your boat, might visit. It is on side of boat less accessible.
I believe that it was placed after hull molded and before the white stuff (some kind of coating) was applied to adjacent surface.
Since no other O'Day owner on this forum has reported finding it, maybe it is lonesome George? (the famous lonesome George is reported not so lonesome any more)
And it could be someone else has seen one and is not following this thread or is not familiar with the North Sea tradition of boatbuilders signing their work with a good luck coin?
Yes, as reported many put coin under mast. But in boats that mast was added to away from building site, they often chose other sites to continue the good fortune tradition.
In wooden boats the coins were thrown in otherwise inaccessible locations and not glued on. So the dates of the coins that Appleman found should have been checked. Maybe he even had a real silver coin?
I am not saying that a coin dated the same year as when boat was build but it would not have later.
Ed K
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"Sailing and boats have been a great way of life, not easy and not very remunerative, but very rewarding." George O'Day
My next boat:
Coin found on O'Day 26:When I gutted our boat I found a lot of change. Just under $1.00 in various denominations. Is that nickel attached? If not, I would not have known if it was put there on purpose or if it was from the PO. BTW, I finally got to my boat to check it today. I haven't been there in two weeks
Yes the coin is attached. Looks like it was placed there while hull was still setting up comin out of mold. Maybe it was added after, but before white coating was applied to visable surfaces.
It his held by a bluish cured resin or similar stuff. It is on not so visible verticle surface where you can crawl to see it but it is not easily otherwise visible.
That means you have to be laying on your back looking up and behind other molded glass work. So, you are laying on your back and not on sole of cabin.
It is a place not easily seen nor gotten too. But if you work on your boat, might visit. It is on side of boat less accessible.
I believe that it was placed after hull molded and before the white stuff (some kind of coating) was applied to adjacent surface.
Since no other O'Day owner on this forum has reported finding it, maybe it is lonesome George? (the famous lonesome George is reported not so lonesome any more)
And it could be someone else has seen one and is not following this thread or is not familiar with the North Sea tradition of boatbuilders signing their work with a good luck coin?
Yes, as reported many put coin under mast. But in boats that mast was added to away from building site, they often chose other sites to continue the good fortune tradition.
In wooden boats the coins were thrown in otherwise inaccessible locations and not glued on. So the dates of the coins that Appleman found should have been checked. Maybe he even had a real silver coin?
I am not saying that a coin dated the same year as when boat was build but it would not have later.
Ed K
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"Sailing and boats have been a great way of life, not easy and not very remunerative, but very rewarding." George O'Day
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Re: Keith, here is your O'Day Nickel
That is neat! I suspected that it would be somewhere in the hold under the cockpit. I have been in there for a good while twice. Once to remove the carpet that runs aft of the quarter birth, the other to remove the winches and blocks. I have to go back, of couirse to reattach the hardware. so next time i am in the boat (it is raining buckets right now) i plan on looking in the area under the cockpit. I have been in there, but not with my eyes open for coins
thanks for the heads up
keith
That is neat! I suspected that it would be somewhere in the hold under the cockpit. I have been in there for a good while twice. Once to remove the carpet that runs aft of the quarter birth, the other to remove the winches and blocks. I have to go back, of couirse to reattach the hardware. so next time i am in the boat (it is raining buckets right now) i plan on looking in the area under the cockpit. I have been in there, but not with my eyes open for coins
thanks for the heads up
keith
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