Starter switch sporadically engages starter

Jan 11, 2014
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Sabre 362 113 Fair Haven, NY
Does a fuse go anywhere between the 2 wires to and from the starter solenoid and start switch/start button? I don’t see any, just wanting to be sure.
Absolutely the circuit needs a fuse at the battery connection that is appropriate for the smaller wire in the circuit.


I’m sure I could improve things yet further by replacing the wire from the start button to solenoid, but I’ll stop here, call it a win and move on to the next pressing issue on my list.
It will be a short lived victory.
 
Feb 16, 2021
438
Hunter Legend 35.5 Bellingham
Well dang. Any info on what size fuse for this? I see a fuse on a wire going out from the switch to some unknown destination, but nothing in line for the solenoid circuit anywhere at the start panel or solenoid. I have also traced the wires between the two and don’t see any fuse in the circuit anywhere.
 
Jan 11, 2014
12,929
Sabre 362 113 Fair Haven, NY
10 ga wire can support 60a. Can't remember what I used, it was 20a or 30a. The switch is probably rated for 15a.
 
Feb 16, 2021
438
Hunter Legend 35.5 Bellingham
I assume the existing circuit would have already been fused, correct? I have traced the circuit thoroughly and not seen a fuse anywhere. What am I missing? Where would the existing fuse be located?
 
Jan 11, 2014
12,929
Sabre 362 113 Fair Haven, NY
I assume the existing circuit would have already been fused, correct? I have traced the circuit thoroughly and not seen a fuse anywhere. What am I missing? Where would the existing fuse be located?
If there is a fuse, then it is buried in the wiring harness.
 
Feb 16, 2021
438
Hunter Legend 35.5 Bellingham
So the factory fuse on the circuit would be on the supply side to the starter switch, not on the wire from the starter button to the solenoid? To protect the circuit and devices from overload, I should install a fuse on the new wire between the positive bus and starter switch, as I’m assuming you did with your install?
 
Apr 22, 2011
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Hunter 27 Pecan Grove, Oriental, NC
There is a fuse on the power going to the instrument panel. It is a part of the wiring bundle between the solenoid and panel and is located in a plastic housing near the wiring bundle plug connector on the solenoid side. That wire carries all the current from the battery (via the solenoid post) to the panel. From the panel, there is a wire (also located in the wiring bundle) that carries the switched current back to activate the solenoid. That wire is not fused.
 
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Jan 11, 2014
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So the factory fuse on the circuit would be on the supply side to the starter switch, not on the wire from the starter button to the solenoid? To protect the circuit and devices from overload, I should install a fuse on the new wire between the positive bus and starter switch, as I’m assuming you did with your install?
Always fuse at the power source. The fuse is there to prevent the wire from over heating due to a short.
 
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Feb 16, 2021
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Hunter Legend 35.5 Bellingham
Ok, easy and logical. What size fuse though? 20 amp? 30 amp? I’m not sure the gauge of the other wires wire coming off of the downstream terminal.
 
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Jan 11, 2014
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Sabre 362 113 Fair Haven, NY
Ok, easy and logical. What size fuse though? I’m not sure the gauge of the wire is coming off of the downstream terminal. 20 amp? 30 amp?
Sorry, can't help you there. I'd just be guessing.
 
Jun 17, 2022
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Hunter 380 Comox BC
If you run AWG 10 to the control panel from the starter positive, then a 30A fuse about 12 inches from the starter would be ideal. Protect that 12 inches with loom.
 
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Jan 11, 2014
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Sabre 362 113 Fair Haven, NY
I’m curious what waterproof fuse holder would be recommended for this application? I’ve found the Blue Sea 5065, but that has 12awg pigtails, which seems to defeat the purpose of having run a higher capacity 10awg wire.

I’ve found a bunch of random options on Amazon, but don’t have faith in their build quality.

The Blue Sea one will be fine because you will be fusing it below its ampacity rating of 45a. There will be a little voltage loss because of the 12 ga wire, however because the pigtails are really short it won't amount to much. I doubt anything but a really high end multimeter could measure the difference in the resistance between 6 inches of 10 and 12 gauge wire.
 
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Feb 16, 2021
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Hunter Legend 35.5 Bellingham
So if I am wiring from the keyed starter switch directly to the battery with an inline 30amp fuse, I assume I should disconnect the old wire at the solenoid and the start switch, or there will be a redundant second 30 amp fuse in the circuit, allowing a total of 60amps before one of them blows, correct? I intend to leave the wire and label it for reference. What is the best way to seal off the ends to avoid a short? Wrap in electrical tape?
 
Jan 11, 2014
12,929
Sabre 362 113 Fair Haven, NY
Cut off both ends of the old wire and leave them disconnected. Keep it simple. Cut them back to where they exit the bundle of wires.
 
Apr 22, 2011
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Hunter 27 Pecan Grove, Oriental, NC
Instead of cutting wires, I would just remove the ring terminal of the suspect wire from the solenoid and connect your new higher gauge wire with 30amp fuse and run that up the loom to the starter panel.