Flush!

Dec 11, 2015
311
Hunter 25 Plymouth
Dear Fellow Sailors,

I have a new-to-me boat with a full head and holding tank. Not sure if I need to add water anywhere. It wasn’t flushing well so I added water to the head right in the bowl and it flushed well. Any wisdom on where I may place water for flushing similar to a house toilet with a fresh water tank in back?
 
Jun 11, 2004
1,801
Oday 31 Redondo Beach
Dear Fellow Sailors,

I have a new-to-me boat with a full head and holding tank. Not sure if I need to add water anywhere. It wasn’t flushing well so I added water to the head right in the bowl and it flushed well. Any wisdom on where I may place water for flushing similar to a house toilet with a fresh water tank in back?
She's very open with sharing her knowledge but you should buy Peggie's book. Money well spent.
 
Jan 7, 2011
5,675
Oday 322 East Chicago, IN
Dear Fellow Sailors,

I have a new-to-me boat with a full head and holding tank. Not sure if I need to add water anywhere. It wasn’t flushing well so I added water to the head right in the bowl and it flushed well. Any wisdom on where I may place water for flushing similar to a house toilet with a fresh water tank in back?
Marine toilets generally use lake water for flushing…there should be a thruhull valve somewhere that you can open to “flush”. If you have a 1/2” hose on the toilet pump, follow that to the thru hull.

These toilets do not usually have a tank like a household toilet.

Greg
 
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BarryL

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May 21, 2004
1,069
Jeanneau Sun Odyssey 409 Mt. Sinai, NY
Hi,

As mentioned, marine toilets do not have a water tank like a home toilet. Most marine toilets are manually operated with a hand pump, Most have a switch - one way will suck in water from the outside and fill the toilet bowl, the other way will empty the bowl. There are electric toilets, I don't have experience with those.

My boat is in salt water. For regular use I do NOT use salt water in the head. If you flush with salt water and that sits in the holding tank, the tiny critters in the salt water will decompose and start to smell. I keep two gallon jugs in the head area. One has water, the other water and a little RV holding tank solution. When I or a guest need to use the head, you pout some water into the bowl, do your business and then pump it dry. Then you pour in some of the hold tank water and pump that dry. No smell.

If I'm going on along trip with a number of people I will use salt water. At at the end of the trip I am sure to get the tank emptied, and rinsed w fresh water a few times. No smell.

Good luck,
Barry
 
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Dec 2, 1997
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She's very open with sharing her knowledge but you should buy Peggie's book. Money well spent.
As much as I appreciate your recommending my book to him, and as much information in it that I'm pretty sure he needs, it doesn't include the answer to his question 'cuz marine toilets don't work that way. But I'll be glad help him get it all sorted out and working the way it should. The first thing he needs is the owners manual for his toilet and I can post a link to it as soon as I f find out what what he has.


My boat is in salt water. For regular use I do NOT use salt water in the head. If you flush with salt water and that sits in the holding tank, the tiny critters in the salt water will decompose and start to smell.
It's not in the tank that salt water starts to stink, it's in the toilet intake line, pump and channel in the rim of the bowl where micro--and not so micro--organisms in sea water die, decay and stink. There's a simple way to solve that problem that works on most boats that have head sink drain thru-hulls below waterline and on which the toilet and head sink are on the same side of the keel:

Sink drain thru-hulls are below the waterline on almost all sailboats. So re-route the toilet intake hose to tee or wye it into the sink drain line as close to the seacock as possible because the connection must be below waterline to work.
This will allow you to flush normally with sea water. After you’ve closed the sink drain seacock in preparation to close up the boat (you do close all seacocks before leaving the boat to sit??), fill the sink with clean fresh water and flush the toilet. Because the seacock is closed, the toilet will draw the water out of the sink, rinsing the sea water out of the entire system—intake line, pump, channel in the rim of the bowl and the discharge line,(Water poured into the bowl only rinses out the toilet discharge line). If your toilet is electric, be careful not to let it run dry…doing so can burn out the intake impeller. Or you can keep the sink drain seacock closed except when it's needed to drain the sink and flush with fresh water down the sink all the time...your choice.
It may also be necessary to keep the sink plugged except when in use, with a rubber sink plug or by installing a conveniently located shut-off valve in the drain hose. Otherwise the toilet may pull air through the sink when you try to flush, preventing the pump from priming.

--Peggie
 
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Oct 26, 2008
6,302
Catalina 320 Barnegat, NJ
Take a picture and post it ... It's very simple ... if you have a marine head, you use the hand pump to flush. You turn a lever one way to pump seawater into the bowl. You turn the lever the other way to pump it dry. As you pump seawater into the bowl, it is also pumping out to the holding tank, so you can over do it if you just keep pumping. It's best to conserve as much as is sanitary just so you aren't filling the tank so often.

If you don't have a hand pump at the side of the bowl, you have something different than a marine head. Only you can answer that question. We can't see it without a picture. I'm pretty sure you don't have an electric toilet in your boat. That would be an extremely odd upgrade done by somebody in the past. Perhaps you have a simple porta-potty?
 
Oct 26, 2008
6,302
Catalina 320 Barnegat, NJ
It does work to simply pour water into the bowl and pump it out with the waste, but it's not a good practice. Something about the valves not getting properly lubricated with water. I've done it often without any ill effect, but I'm sure it's not good for the long term. Pumping seawater is the normal routine, except that it leads to the problems with smelly water. People have rigged connections to a sink to pump freshwater. I'm not a fan. I installed an electric toilet and it's connected to pressurized water so it works more like a toilet at home. It's easy to use a lot of water, so it's good that we have water available and pump-out boat comes regularly. Also, we have a pump out station at a nearby fuel dock that is very convenient. We also have access to the 3-mile offshore limit ...
 
Oct 26, 2008
6,302
Catalina 320 Barnegat, NJ
Just to explain pumping water from a sink ... the premise is to let the sink drain into a line so that it can be pumped into the bowl. It's the same principal as pumping seawater, except the source of the water is the sink drain. If you have a manual toilet, you must not feed pressurized water into the intake line. You will contaminate your freshwater source. The idea of flushing water from your sink drain is to get freshwater from your freshwater source, but keeping it separate from your freshwater lines by making it drain thru the sink bowl first.
 
Oct 26, 2008
6,302
Catalina 320 Barnegat, NJ
Of course, you have to find your intake line thru-hull and open it. Do you have a thru hull discharge from the holding tank? That's another story ...