HELP.. Rigging question Hunter 45DS Selden Furler Mast

SVSEA5

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Jun 29, 2021
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HUNTER 45 DS BOOTHBAY
We had the mast taken off this past winter, this is how they ran the rigging this spring. Last year the line in (?) was ran down to the end of the boom, then along sid and cleated off at the front of the boom. Now they have taken the spare halyard and ran it to the end of the boom. Our questions, the (?) line is fixed at the top of the mast, what is this lines purpose? How are other Hunter 45DS Selden Furler Masts rigged, I have looked over the guides, on the internet and cannot find an answer. The boat yard says it was improperly rigged last year. If anyone can share pictures or a diagram, I would so appreciate it. We also have issues with our main sheet at the back of the boom if anyone can share a picture of that as well. Thanking you in advance for any help/advice you may offer.
2022 HUNTER 45DS SELDEN MAST.jpg
 
Apr 27, 2010
1,277
Hunter 23 Lake Wallenpaupack
My guess is that line with the arrow is the topping lift, especially if it's attached to the end of the mast crane. If so it should be attached to the aft end of the boom (probably through a sheave) so it can be used to support the boom when the main is furled. You can see that the spare halyard would then not wrap around that line. I'd suggest the yard that rigged it as shown is incorrect. Where does that line go to now?
 

JamesG161

SBO Weather and Forecasting Forum Jim & John
Feb 14, 2014
7,711
Hunter 430 Waveland, MS
This picture may help.

The Halyard is inside the mast on a swivel. The tension on the Halyard is key to proper fulling operations.

The Topping lift is for the Boom. That excess line is tied off on the mast.

Simple to pull on the Topping Line to figure out which.

They should not Cross each other

NewFurling.jpg

Jim...
 
Sep 22, 2021
284
Hunter 41AC 0 Portland, OR
On our H41DS, the topping lift (aka spare halyard) enters the mast above the main halyard. It looks to me like yours was rigged with the main halyard and the topping lift swapped.
 
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SVSEA5

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Jun 29, 2021
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HUNTER 45 DS BOOTHBAY
My guess is that line with the arrow is the topping lift, especially if it's attached to the end of the mast crane. If so it should be attached to the aft end of the boom (probably through a sheave) so it can be used to support the boom when the main is furled. You can see that the spare halyard would then not wrap around that line. I'd suggest the yard that rigged it as shown is incorrect. Where does that line go to now?
My guess is that line with the arrow is the topping lift, especially if it's attached to the end of the mast crane. If so it should be attached to the aft end of the boom (probably through a sheave) so it can be used to support the boom when the main is furled. You can see that the spare halyard would then not wrap around that line. I'd suggest the yard that rigged it as shown is incorrect. Where does that line go to now?
Originally the topping lift was attached to the end of the boom and ran back outside the boom and cleated off at the front. The topping lift line is "now" cleated off at the bottom of the mast. I know its wrong its just a matter of having more eyes on it and confirming. The topping lift has become a useless line, its only purpose now that it hangs so far off the crane is to slap the top of the mast in wind.
 

JamesG161

SBO Weather and Forecasting Forum Jim & John
Feb 14, 2014
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Hunter 430 Waveland, MS
The topping lift has become a useless line
No.
It is key to your In- Mast Furling operation.;)

Look at the picture in my Post #3 above, please.
Jim...
 
May 17, 2004
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Beneteau Oceanis 37 Havre de Grace
The advantage of using the spare halyard as the topping lift is that you can raise the boom from wherever the halyard is routed to, rather than the cleat on the boom where the original topping lift was terminated. The disadvantage is, of course, that you have a wasted line slapping on the mast instead of an actual spare halyard.


It is key to your In- Mast Furling operation.;)
Does the Selden not have a rigid vang that can hold the boom high enough for furling when eased? The US Spars rigs do anyway, making the vang generally redundant for most purposes. Just wondering if they are different in that way.
 
Sep 22, 2021
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Hunter 41AC 0 Portland, OR
Does the Selden not have a rigid vang that can hold the boom high enough [...]
Our 2007 H41DS had a rigid boom vang when we bought it last year but it didn't have the gas strut inside of it to support the boom. As I understand it, Hunter supplied the boom vang without the gas strut but it could be added as an option. I recently retrofitted our boom vang with the gas strut so now the topping lift is somewhat superfluous (other than for ascending the mast all the way to the top).
 

JamesG161

SBO Weather and Forecasting Forum Jim & John
Feb 14, 2014
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Hunter 430 Waveland, MS
The Boom LIFT line is used during In-Mast furling, to maintain boom angle for the cut of your main sail.
Note: This is not a Halyard.

The Boom VANG is used to adjust your main sail.

Please read this entire thread that discusses the mechanism.

In mast 'piece of crap' furling system

Jim...
 
Jul 6, 2017
158
Hunter H 41DS Hampton, VA
Our H41 has a adjustable vang that supports the boom as well. I thought it was spring loaded. I learned something new. My topping lift is redundant. I never thought of using it as a spare halyard, although it is a smaller line than the main halyard which is a 1/2" line. I still loosen and tighten the topping lift before and after each sail to keep it from flopping around or getting in the way of the main sail.
 

SVSEA5

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Jun 29, 2021
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HUNTER 45 DS BOOTHBAY
Thank you everyone for your help. We are taking the boat back to the yard and they are going to remove the line from the crane.