The Cup

Oct 2, 2008
3,811
Pearson/ 530 Strafford, NH
Emirates Team New Zealand ran away with the final race for a 7-1 win over Oracle Team USA.

All U Get
 
Jun 11, 2011
1,243
Hunter 41 Lewes
This might be a war room statement but I believe all crew should be citizens of the country the boat represents.
 
Oct 2, 2008
3,811
Pearson/ 530 Strafford, NH
Uncledom the world is getting smaller and homogenized. I feel the same way but with college and university students competing on teams around the world, citizenship doesn't seem to disqualify any of them. Same for the pro teams here in the US. Cheers for New Zealand for getting their boat and crew running hot. They must know something about trim.

All U Get
 
Jun 11, 2011
1,243
Hunter 41 Lewes
For the record, I'm not criticizing the sailors or their abilities. The win is the win and congratulations to them. It's the rules over all I don't agree with. It should be treated like a country sponsored event in which only countrymen can compete per yacht. It's too commercialized and buying talent should be a no go.
 
Feb 17, 2006
5,274
Lancer 27PS MCB Camp Pendleton KF6BL
I think NL cheated. The guys on the bicycles were actually working the magnetohydrodynamic drive that was in each hull. Of course it was invisible and undetecable, but none the less it was there.

Yeah... congrats to the Kiwis.

Now, bring back the real sailboats. With real sailors. :poke:
 
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Jun 10, 2017
174
Catalina 1980 Catalina 30 Mk II John's Pass / Tampa Bay
I was very disappointed.

How many of your fellow boaters have stationary bikes, an airplane wing, & adjustable foils so as to keep hulls dry & sail @ 40 MPH?
Let alone crash helmets, shoulder, elbow & knee pads.

If I wanted to see the Indy 500, I wouldn't be watching the Cup races.
The governing body did a real "Shoot the Pooch" on this one.
I wouldn't mind if they added these one design boats as a separate class from the rag hanging boats.
In this way, it would appeal to a much broader range group.

I agree with Brian, "Now, bring back the real sailboats. With real sailors."
 
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Oct 21, 2008
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oday 222 niagara
I enjoyed it. A race w/ race boats, best at what they do crew, on a "short track" race course. Have the A.C. boats or crews ever been less than race boats w/ rich guy crews?
 
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Jan 27, 2008
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ODay 35 Beaufort, NC
Regardless of your position on these boats and crew racing for the "cup" you have to admit watching a wind powered vessel going over 50 mph is pretty cool! Did you notice the chase boats? They had four outboards on the back to try to keep up with the sailboats. They should use these kind of boats in the next around the world race to see what the new record would be. No need to go into the roaring 40's as much lower wind speed will still get you there mighty quick. Let's say they average 30 for daily runs of 720. Should take less than 40 days for around the world. Imagine going from Miami to Puerto Rico in a day and a half.
 
Oct 29, 2016
1,929
Hunter 41 DS Port Huron
Lets make it a real rich guys race series - Series #1 - Monohulls, Series #2 - Flying Cats, Series #3 - Trihulls all using the same crews!!!
 
Jul 7, 2004
8,534
Hunter 30T Cheney, KS
I think NL cheated. The guys on the bicycles were actually working the magnetohydrodynamic drive that was in each hull. Of course it was invisible and undetecable, but none the less it was there.

Yeah... congrats to the Kiwis.

Now, bring back the real sailboats. With real sailors. :poke:
Someone has been reading Tom Clancy. The caterpillar drive!
 
Jul 7, 2004
8,534
Hunter 30T Cheney, KS
Regardless of your position on these boats and crew racing for the "cup" you have to admit watching a wind powered vessel going over 50 mph is pretty cool! Did you notice the chase boats? They had four outboards on the back to try to keep up with the sailboats. They should use these kind of boats in the next around the world race to see what the new record would be. No need to go into the roaring 40's as much lower wind speed will still get you there mighty quick. Let's say they average 30 for daily runs of 720. Should take less than 40 days for around the world. Imagine going from Miami to Puerto Rico in a day and a half.
I don't think any crew could keep up with the physical demands of the boat for that long!
 
May 17, 2004
6,147
Beneteau Oceanis 37 Havre de Grace
I was very disappointed.

How many of your fellow boaters have stationary bikes, an airplane wing, & adjustable foils so as to keep hulls dry & sail @ 40 MPH?
Let alone crash helmets, shoulder, elbow & knee pads.
To be fair, how many boaters in the 30's had 120 foot J class yachts, or winged keels in the early 80s?
 
Sep 29, 2008
1,971
Catalina 310 #185 Quantico
To be fair, how many boaters in the 30's had 120 foot J class yachts, or winged keels in the early 80s?
I am with Davidasailor26 on this one. I am not sure what will trickle down to us, but I am looking forward to it. The rules were a bit crazy but it was a great competition.
 
Aug 3, 2012
2,542
Performance Cruising Telstar 28 302 Watkins Glen
They are the cutting edge. When a team figures out an advantage, they run away with it for a while: wing keels?
All these elements will eventually factor in our boats. Racing develops, and the market adopts. One day, we will have stable, foiling cruisers.
Breathe people...
The first spoiler in NASCAR and Open wheel racing had people saying the same kind of things.
Now, we have spoilers on tractor trailers!
You get the point...
 
Feb 17, 2006
5,274
Lancer 27PS MCB Camp Pendleton KF6BL
Pray, tell, doesth one thinketh sir foil will grace itself upon thy monohull? Get real. There are no technologies on these rocket ships that will find their way to monohulls, save maybe the sails, or wings, or whatever they are called.

However, someone mentioned a race around the world on these rockets. Now that would be interesting. They really can't safely fly with wind above, what, 20knts? And I'd like to see then handle 10 ft seas. LOL

JMHO - bring back the real boats and real sailors
 
Jan 27, 2008
3,092
ODay 35 Beaufort, NC
They are so fast they could follow a 20 knot wind pattern all around the world. Not saying these exact boats would make the journey but a larger foiling cat might. You'll need hydraulics powered by a generator not human power of course and a cabin for eating and sleeping.
I wonder if Ellison will challenge for the cup again? Bermuda seemed like a great location but NZ had a great spot last time the cup was there also.
 
Aug 3, 2012
2,542
Performance Cruising Telstar 28 302 Watkins Glen
Pray, tell, doesth one thinketh sir foil will grace itself upon thy monohull? Get real. There are no technologies on these rocket ships that will find their way to monohulls, save maybe the sails, or wings, or whatever they are called.

However, someone mentioned a race around the world on these rockets. Now that would be interesting. They really can't safely fly with wind above, what, 20knts? And I'd like to see then handle 10 ft seas. LOL

JMHO - bring back the real boats and real sailors
Odds Fish, Man! Thou art Too Late. There are plenty of monohulls with foils. Yes, they are still racing yachts, but the tech is spreading. VOR has lifting foils on 70 ft yachts. Gunboat sells a foiling cat. There is a bolt-on foil kit for dinghies now.
Will my 272 ever have foils? No.
I am not against the beauty of the 12 Meter. However, these owners have money and ego, and that is a crazy combination!