Copper bottom

Jan 11, 2014
12,424
Sabre 362 113 Fair Haven, NY
VC17 is not an ablative paint. It is a thin-film vinyl paint and is quite hard.
VC 17 is not an ablative paint in the sense that we usually think of ablative paints, but it does wear, especially on the leading edges of the hull, keel, and rudder.

The copper and "biolux" additive retard growth and slime.

The powdered copper is attached to the hull with a teflon based film. This makes it more difficult for marine growth to adhere to the hull, but it still does adhere. Been using it for over 30 years.
 
Feb 26, 2011
1,437
Achilles SD-130 Alameda, CA
VC 17 is not an ablative paint in the sense that we usually think of ablative paints...
The manufacturer does not consider it an ablative paint and neither do I (22 years in the hull cleaning business.) For the purposes of forum discussion, it's best to be accurate when referring to any of the wide variety of anti fouling paint products and types, IMHO.
 
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Feb 5, 2009
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Gloucester 20 Kanawha River, Winfield, WV
Can anybody tell me what the color is for the ORIGINAL VC17? When you look it up to buy, there are 3 choices. Black, blue and then it says ORIGINAL.
I thought it was red, blue, and original? My boat was painted with VC17 original when I got it and I put several more coats of original on it. It goes on a pretty shiny copper color and then after a few weeks in the water it turns sort of a muddy brown. Last year I put on a coat of red, which goes on the same copper color, and later turns red. Looks pink in the can. VC17 comes in two parts, btw, a can of liquid and a bag of copper powder that you mix in before applying.
 
Nov 30, 2015
1,340
Hunter 1978 H30 Cherubini, Treman Marina, Ithaca, NY
VC17 is not an ablative paint. It is a thin-film vinyl paint and is quite hard.
I may have misconstrued the effects of an Ablative paint, relative to a coating that degrades over time. Ablative, from what I've learned is more along the lines of a "sloughing" process, similar to the wearing away of a bar of soap. The Interlux VC17M degrades/oxidizes/departs while moving/sailing in the water, keeping the hull relatively smooth and free from critters that have shells (zebra mussels) and substantial algae formations. Our boat doesn't sit still enough in the marina to worry about such things, but I really like the protection we get from this easily recoatable product. Regardless, the VC17M does degrade, not ablate, and needs periodic (2 season) recoating, at least on the fresh waters of Cayuga Lake.
 
Jan 7, 2011
5,319
Oday 322 East Chicago, IN
Can anybody tell me what the color is for the ORIGINAL VC17? When you look it up to buy, there are 3 choices. Black, blue and then it says ORIGINAL.
The blue stuff goes on like the original copper color, but turns blue once the boat is in the water for a while. I have never seen the black.

Greg
 

Gunni

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Mar 16, 2010
5,937
Beneteau 411 Oceanis Annapolis
Well, winter is a good time to put on the tyvek, pull on the full-face mask, mount the 80 grit and sand boat hulls!
 
Jan 11, 2014
12,424
Sabre 362 113 Fair Haven, NY
Well, winter is a good time to put on the tyvek, pull on the full-face mask, mount the 80 grit and sand boat hulls!
For freshwater sailors, using VC 17 completely eliminates this step!

Wash the bottom with a hose and brush, let it dry, roll on the VC 17.
 

Gunni

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Mar 16, 2010
5,937
Beneteau 411 Oceanis Annapolis
You assume Windtherapy has a boat painted with VC 17, he is not so certain.