FWIW, I'm just passing this on...

[Eddie7045]

Rgranger, yes, it is interesting.

I'm surprised that it has been only that long ago. I can remember using it all the time in the 1960s and would have thought it was much older than 1953. Considering it's versatility it's quite an invention.

 

[capta]

I wouldn't waste your time mixing the acetone/ATF much in advance because the acetone will probably evaporate pretty quickly. It certainly does whenever I use it to clean things, like an inflatable before patching/gluing.
My personal experience, having had to dismantle steel to steel equipment on boats since the early 60's, is PB Blaster is by far the best. Sometimes it may take a few days of repeated spraying, but I have rarely had to resort to heat, though a pipe to extend the length of the wrench handle is often helpful. There has been a shortage of PB Blaster down here lately, and it has been sorely missed.
Before PB Blaster came along, or at least before I found it, Liquid Wrench and WD-40 were the standard rust busters, but PB Blaster blew them away.
To be fair, I have never used Kano Kroil.
Hint; WD-40 is illegal in Alaska as a fish attractant on your lures for a very good reason. Wanna guess why?

 

[rgranger]

Hint; WD-40 is illegal in Alaska as a fish attractant on your lures for a very good reason. Wanna guess why?

Capta: If you were going to say it is made of fish oil.... that would be incorrect. But to be fair I have heard that same story. If you go to the link I posted earlier in this thread, they have a page of common myths and this was on there. They did say that they believe the myth got started because it seems to attract fish.

 

[Eddie7045]

It has a confectionary smell

and I found it pleasant enough. Can't say that I has ever tempted to taste it however. Off hand I don't buy the "fishing lure" story.

 

[centerline]

and I found it pleasant enough. Can't say that I has ever tempted to taste it however. Off hand I don't buy the "fishing lure" story.

you can believe it believe it!!
but im not sure its really any better than other fish attractant formulations, just much cheaper....

28 years ago I was living on the Mackenzie river in Springfield Oregon... but that dont matter because it could have been about any river in the northwest at that time, but it seems that it may have started in springfield... the big thing at the time was to take a tampon, tie it with a double hook rig, saturate it with wd-40, fish it like you would egg clusters or an "okie drifter" rig , and catch your limit of salmon or steelhead within an hour.... I was there, I fished it, and Ive caught fish on it...

 

[capta]

Capta: If you were going to say it is made of fish oil.... that would be incorrect. But to be fair I have heard that same story. If you go to the link I posted earlier in this thread, they have a page of common myths and this was on there. They did say that they believe the myth got started because it seems to attract fish.

I do not know what it's made with, but I do know it works and it IS illegal to put on fishing lures in Alaska.
The answer to the question was not that it contains fish oil, but that it actually does work.

 

[Eddie7045]

I dunno, smells good to me. Maybe with rum it.....

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[Brian D]

This sounds very interesting, but as always, caution is the word of the day here. There are two chemicals that are not really designed to work together in this mixture. One does so at ones own risk. SBO cannot be held responsible or liable for anything that "could" happen to you or your boat. But it does sound interesting.

 

[Eddie7045]

Has anyone tested "Longer Pipe" brand ?

It claims to be effective and environmentally safe.

 

[Benny17441]

Any study that uses meaningless and perhaps misleading phrases like "scientifically rusted" without explaining the actual process and providing a percentage for the margin of error among the samples looses credibility. Seems to me like the cost of a quart of transmission oil and the cost of acetone to mix with the desired volume of oil may cost more than a spray can of Liquid Wrench. I mean if you have ATF laying around and acetone and a rusted bolt to remove I would try it but not convinced the mix would be better and definitely not more convenient than an on the shelf product.

 

[Ron20324]

Any study that uses meaningless and perhaps misleading phrases like "scientifically rusted" without explaining the actual process and providing a percentage for the margin of error among the samples looses credibility....

You and others misunderstand that the testing does not compare labs results to what you may or may not find for you own application as one poster fretted about.

The point is that whatever the testing process, is that ALL the screws/bolts or nuts were all treat EQUALLY as to simulated wear conditions/patterns BEOFRE the extraction readings were taken. This assures a common and equal STARTING ground- which is the basis for ANY test of ANY material using ANY medium for whatever you're trying to do. In this test, they are all EQUAL up to the point of putting the wrench on the bolt- regardless of how they are equal.

 

[All U Get]

I can see where this is heading so I'll offer up the opportunity to test the different products. I took off the rear wheels with PB Blaster, impact wrench, heat, and a 1" drive breaker bar with 8 foot pipe. I however need to have a front tire removed for repair and being 50 years since it was put on, it may be difficult.

So if you would like to come and try your stuff I'll supply the lemonade. You just have to extinguish any fires you start around the machine if you choose to wait until the snow goes away. I can't remember if there's six or eight lugs on the front and its below zero with the wind blowing so I'm not going out to check.

Maybe you could get Maine Sail to video it, we could have it posted. I don't have a torque wrench that big so we'll have to guestimate pounds of force. Bring a note from your Doctor just in case we get to straining on a nut.

Too late, my wife read this post over my shoulder since I was asking her to spell the big words. She says she not having a bunch of sailors in her yard arguing about how to tie knots or what kind of oil filters to use. This is her time off and get my tools and do my own work, blah, blah. I'll let you know if I get around to changing the tire. (That was a good idea)


All U Get

 

[woodster]

I can see where this is heading so I'll offer up the opportunity to test the different products. I took off the rear wheels with PB Blaster, impact wrench, heat, and a 1" drive breaker bar with 8 foot pipe. I however need to have a front tire removed for repair and being 50 years since it was put on, it may be difficult.

So if you would like to come and try your stuff I'll supply the lemonade. You just have to extinguish any fires you start around the machine if you choose to wait until the snow goes away. I can't remember if there's six or eight lugs on the front and its below zero with the wind blowing so I'm not going out to check.

Maybe you could get Maine Sail to video it, we could have it posted. I don't have a torque wrench that big so we'll have to guestimate pounds of force. Bring a note from your Doctor just in case we get to straining on a nut.

Too late, my wife read this post over my shoulder since I was asking her to spell the big words. She says she not having a bunch of sailors in her yard arguing about how to tie knots or what kind of oil filters to use. This is her time off and get my tools and do my own work, blah, blah. I'll let you know if I get around to changing the tire. (That was a good idea)


All U Get

man you are good ...from the looks of that back yard you did a good job of shoveling the snow away so you could work on that ford tractor

 

[rgranger]

I can see where this is heading ... (That was a good idea) All U Get

Funny guy.... :+1:

 

[Charles Erwin]

I can see where this is heading so I'll offer up the opportunity to test the different products. I took off the rear wheels with PB Blaster, impact wrench, heat, and a 1" drive breaker bar with 8 foot pipe. I however need to have a front tire removed for repair and being 50 years since it was put on, it may be difficult.

Here is one-

Heat up the lugs/studs- really hot. Press candle wax or (canning) paraffin onto the studs thus to melt same. Magic happens according to some? Tell us if magic happens for you.

Charles

 

[Eddie7045]

Charles, y'mean like in the Loving Spoonful song ?

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[woodster]

Hers is one-

Heat up the lugs/studs- really hot. Press candle wax or (canning) paraffin onto the studs thus to melt same. Magic happens according to some? Tell us if magic happens for you.

Charles

i have heard of this before

 

[uncledom]

You and others misunderstand that the testing does not compare labs results to what you may or may not find for you own application as one poster fretted about.

The point is that whatever the testing process, is that ALL the screws/bolts or nuts were all treat EQUALLY as to simulated wear conditions/patterns BEOFRE the extraction readings were taken. This assures a common and equal STARTING ground- which is the basis for ANY test of ANY material using ANY medium for whatever you're trying to do. In this test, they are all EQUAL up to the point of putting the wrench on the bolt- regardless of how they are equal.

Equal doesn't mean they are rusted/corroded in place. It seems they are just measuring which is a better thread lubricant, not which one loosens rusted/corroded hardware.

 

[Ron20324]

... It seems they are just measuring which is a better thread lubricant, not which one loosens rusted/corroded hardware.

Well, Duh, it can't be a lubricant it it can't get to the frozen threads... and that's the stated purpose of the post.

 

[uncledom]

Well, Duh, it can't be a lubricant it it can't get to the frozen threads... and that's the stated purpose of the post.

My suggestion is that they aren't really rusted/corroded, and that due to the way they are testing it is just rating the lubricating rather then penetrating qualities. And as anyone who has actually attempted to remove old salt water frozen hardware knows, it's all about the penetration.