How long does 'banned' status last?

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Sep 15, 2009
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Re: Nice to be back again

good too see ya back again Stu...when i saw banned i thought you was gone for good as the word banned to me means final.....i will probably get banned for this but i would like to see the word suspended used instead of banned when we have some one sent to detention hall...

regards

woody
 

Bob S

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Sep 27, 2007
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Beneteau 393 New Bedford, MA
13000 post! we can't afford to loose you :) Welcome back.
 
Dec 14, 2003
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Hunter 34 Lake of Two Mountains, QC, Can
Welcome back Stu. Don't know what caused the tremor and don't care. I'm glad it's back to helping and being helped again.
 

sfgary

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Sep 25, 2008
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Challenger sloop Alameda
I just got back from a short vacation and was shocked to read this thread. I keep my boat just down the estuary from Stu and have run into him on the water(figuratively not literally). I don't know what happened and don't care, I'm glad he's back! He has saved me a lot of money. I look forward to sailing together soon.

Gary

PS This is a great forum for all sailors.
 
May 23, 2004
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I'm in the market as were . Colonial Beach
So does Stu get bad boy points for being banned? Is it like a goon hockey player getting in trouble and being worth more when they get back?
 
Apr 11, 2012
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Cataina 400 MK II Santa Cruz
Stu, I've always enjoyed your participation. We've never met in person, yet I consider you a friend. Glad that you are continuing to be here.

Scotty
 
Jan 27, 2008
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ODay 35 Beaufort, NC
Something seems to be going on here. After 14 years of this forum the sensitivity of the moderators seems to be drastically increasing as well as the number of moderators. I don't think I could keep my M25 running without Stu around to encourage me to implement all the critical safety upgrades. Welcome back Stu, lay low for a while and see how this conspiracy plays out. :>)
 
Feb 6, 1998
11,760
Canadian Sailcraft 36T Casco Bay, ME
Something seems to be going on here. After 14 years of this forum the sensitivity of the moderators seems to be drastically increasing as well as the number of moderators. I don't think I could keep my M25 running without Stu around to encourage me to implement all the critical safety upgrades. Welcome back Stu, lay low for a while and see how this conspiracy plays out. :>)
Same number of moderators as there have always been.. Brian, myself, Scott and Phil.. Sensitivity is the same as far as I know, at least from my perspective.

I think there has been some bleed over from the vitriol in off topic sections and we've had some folks just try to push the limits out in the main forums.

What there has been is an increase in the "report post"
feature. Perhaps it is the other members of the community that are just sick and tired of some of the abuse, rude posts, politics in the main forums etc. etc... We used to go sometimes weeks without a reported post now we can hardly go a day with out having at least a few. This is driven by the members here and not the admins and mods.

Keep in mind that when other sailing forums ban a member, for the same reasons we would, they often wind up on our door step with the same attitude. They usually wind up in the same boats as the forum they were just kicked out of. We have had a few of these...

We simply can't read every post so much of these forums are self policing via the report post icon
.. If I had to shoot from the hip I'd have to say it is the other members who are the ones getting more sensitive. Perhaps though it is that they have finally discovered the report post feature actually works and we do follow up on them. This is not SA or CF or SN. These forums are a 100% be nice zone and always have been...

We provide areas for politics (War Room) and off topic (Sails Call) and we expect the lee way in attitudes we sometimes allow in those forums to remain there.
 
Jan 22, 2008
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Fed up w/ personal attacks I'm done with SBO
In the past have certain members been allowed more leeway with the rules than others either by policy, moderation evolution or previous oversight?
 
Feb 6, 1998
11,760
Canadian Sailcraft 36T Casco Bay, ME
In the past have certain members been allowed more leeway with the rules than others either by policy, moderation evolution or previous oversight?
Not intentionally or by design but some things do squeak by us. As I mentioned much of this is driven by you the members by using the report post icon.... We also reserve the right to make decisions that fall outside the guidelines but these instances are very rare. All that we've seen recently involved very easy and clear cut cases of forum rules violations..

These are some examples of the stuff we block you guys from ever seeing:

"You sir are an idiot.. You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about."

"The problem for the OP is that they may actually read this type of crap and think it's accurate."

"My request is this: if you don't know what your talking about shut up."


"How did you get to be so dumb? Ugh"


Referring to another forum members wife whom he does not know and has never met:
"Cut this woman lose. She is very bad news !
I married a woman like this once it was 5 years of hell !!! I had many friends warn me about this woman and I did not listen. One of the biggest mistakes of my life. I bet this one has a looney tune switch also."



And this one to a newbie looking to buy a Catalina:
"my friend, from what i have read from you and the repiles i have seen, you are heading for a big fail because you are stupid and uneducated."


These just barely scratch the surface of what we have to deal with.BTW NONE of these infractions were Stu's....
 
Jan 22, 2008
880
Fed up w/ personal attacks I'm done with SBO
Once a rules transgression has occurred is the offending member notified and allowed the opportunity to edit his post prior to moderator action?
 
Feb 6, 1998
11,760
Canadian Sailcraft 36T Casco Bay, ME
Once a rules transgression has occurred is the offending member notified and allowed the opportunity to edit his post prior to moderator action?

We really don't have the time to wait for an offender to edit a post, it could be hours or days before they do. We wish folks would use restraint so we don't have to intervene but some occasionally slip. We usually will delete the post, hard or soft, and send a warning to the poster. If these posts are left public they can derail a thread in minutes and lead to mayhem.

For the best outcome for the boards we simply delete or soft delete the post and send a warning to the offender.
 
Jan 22, 2008
880
Fed up w/ personal attacks I'm done with SBO
Last question, promise.

Are some transgressions given more weight than others? In the examples of rudeness you provided, are they considered more egregious than advertising or other violations?
 
Sep 15, 2009
6,244
S2 9.2a Fairhope Al
Have you ever been deleted......

...well i have and it was justifiable by the board.....i riped a guys hart out one time over a comment they made to/about another member....i let my disapproval control my actions and responded to that post...it was in my mind the correct thing to do....BUT in doing so i did not let the mods do there job...and that made me out of line.....at the time i didn't know about reporting a post as i do now....i didn't take offense to the action or carry a grudge over it witch would have been childish on my part....i can say that if you get deleted,suspended or banned you can well know you had it coming...these mods are not prudes or sanctimonious or selfrichious....
what i am saying here is they do this with out Monterey compensation and we use this board with no cost to us....so you see this is the best deal in town.....

keep up the good work mods.....

regards

woody
 
Feb 6, 1998
11,760
Canadian Sailcraft 36T Casco Bay, ME
Last question, promise.

Are some transgressions given more weight than others? In the examples of rudeness you provided, are they considered more egregious than advertising or other violations?
I won't speak to the other mods but for me YES rudeness, insults or name calling to other members takes the cake over advertising, politics, brand bashing etc... I suspect Phil would say advertising then rudeness but that is just a shoot from the hip guess.

For me play nice/be nice is my #1 hot button, but I have to mod it all, especially when reported and I have seen it...... As I mentioned lots sneaks by that may not meet forum guidelines so it is up to the members to use the report post icon.
 
Feb 6, 1998
11,760
Canadian Sailcraft 36T Casco Bay, ME
...well i have and it was justifiable by the board.....i riped a guys hart out one time over a comment they made to/about another member....i let my disapproval control my actions and responded to that post...it was in my mind the correct thing to do....BUT in doing so i did not let the mods do there job...and that made me out of line.....at the time i didn't know about reporting a post as i do now....i didn't take offense to the action or carry a grudge over it witch would have been childish on my part....i can say that if you get deleted,suspended or banned you can well know you had it coming...these mods are not prudes or sanctimonious or selfrichious....
what i am saying here is they do this with out Monterey compensation and we use this board with no cost to us....so you see this is the best deal in town.....

keep up the good work mods.....

regards

woody
Woody,

Your is a prime example of the thread derailment & mayhem I speak of. This is why we don't have the time to warn a member and let them edit their own post once we are aware of it.

You got caught in the fray, and deleted along with it, but the first post never should have happened to "bait" you into it.
 
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