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Jan 27, 2008
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ODay 35 Beaufort, NC
Might be a good idea to unplug the boat you are working on from the dock. That way no AC will be flowing into the boat and possibly out the underwater metal parts. Divers are always cleaning boats in my marina, when i clean my own boat I always unplug it just to be safe.
 
Oct 24, 2010
2,405
Hunter 30 Everett, WA
It isn't legal to clean a boat bottom with ablative copper bottom paint in Washington. It must be hauled.
Ken
 
Feb 26, 2011
1,440
Achilles SD-130 Alameda, CA
About a year and a half ago I heard from friends in Cape Coral that a diver died (reportedly from stray current) while cleaning the bottom of a vessel.
I suspect your friend has bad info. Electric Shock Drowning (ESD) is exceedingly rare in salt water, to the point of being almost non-existent. Virtually all cases of ESD occur in freshwater and there are easily viewed statistics bearing this out. That said, I unplug every boat I work on, because you only have to get electrocuted once to ruin your day. :biggrin:
 
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Feb 26, 2011
1,440
Achilles SD-130 Alameda, CA
Wow, must be nice to dive in 50° water without gloves. After a few minutes I can't even feel my fingers. LOL
Knowing that I would only be in the water for a short while and also having to manipulate a tiny GoPro camera, I chose not to wear gloves. Any other time, I'd have them on.
 

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Feb 14, 2014
8,017
Hunter 430 Waveland, MS
I unplug every boat I work on
That is the key to avoid shocks.
You must be "grounded" for any electric current pass through your body.
I am assuming your "wet suit" has rubber boots and perhaps you use flippers.
Your gloves perhaps are rubber too.;)

If you disconnect the AC ground on the boat by unplugging, you have eliminated most of the "grounding" possibilities.:)
Jim...
 
May 17, 2004
6,145
Beneteau Oceanis 37 Havre de Grace
That is the key to avoid shocks.
You must be "grounded" for any electric current pass through your body.
I am assuming your "wet suit" has rubber boots and perhaps you use flippers.
Your gloves perhaps are rubber too.;)

If you disconnect the AC ground on the boat by unplugging, you have eliminated most of the "grounding" possibilities.:)
Jim...
Not completely in fresh water. If you're in fresh water and a boat on one side has a wiring fault, then power will try to get to nearby boats or grounds. This will create a voltage potential in the water itself, and your relatively salty body will be the wire between the voltage on one side and the other. Certainly it's worse if you touch the hot or cold sides directly, but you're not immune just being in the water. In salt water you're not a better wire than the water around you, so it's not so bad.
 

Bob S

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Sep 27, 2007
1,813
Beneteau 393 New Bedford, MA
No excuses but I'd be curious what it looked like before and how many hours it took them. They should have gone back for a second round when the visibility was better. It must get pretty cloudy during a cleaning.
Love your videos fstbttms!
 
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Tom J

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Sep 30, 2008
2,325
Catalina 310 Quincy, MA
No excuses but I'd be curious what it looked like before and how many hours it took them. They should have gone back for a second round when the visibility was better. It must get pretty cloudy during a cleaning.
Love your videos fstbttms!
When I lived in Florida, I would usually move my boat out of the marina to a spot with a bit of current. Much better visibility, and no stray current (electrical).
Thank goodness we didn't have to haul to clean the bottom. Once or twice a month?:yikes:
 
Apr 23, 2007
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When we owned sailboats in SW Florida I usually cleaned my own bottom. (No pun intended.) I enjoyed the chance to use scuba equipment and give our hull a good cleaning. It became just another maintenance task. I most often did this chore while anchored in an area with enough water depth and with little boat traffic. However, I remember cleaning the bottom once while in our slip and doing a centerboard cable replacement there also.

As I look back at those activities I realize that I never appreciated the danger in that task. About a year and a half ago I heard from friends in Cape Coral that a diver died (reportedly from stray current) while cleaning the bottom of a vessel. A word of caution and a question to fstbttms and any other diver or swimmer who enters the water in a marina setting. Is there a way to check for stray current before entering the water?
There are several vendors who sell a shock alarm that detects stray current. I bought some for my yacht club since the small boat sailors sometimes end up in the water...
https://www.amazon.com/ShockAlarm-E...F8&qid=1546892344&sr=1-2&keywords=shock+alert
 

FDL S2

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Jun 29, 2014
485
S2 7.3 Fond du Lac
No excuses but I'd be curious what it looked like before and how many hours it took them. They should have gone back for a second round when the visibility was better. It must get pretty cloudy during a cleaning.
Love your videos fstbttms!
My boat gets hauled out every fall and I repaint the bottom every spring,thus I have zero experience with this so I'm curious:

How often does the bottom need to be cleaned and how much does it cost for say, a 30ft fin keel like a Catalina?
Also, how often do you need to haul out and paint the bottom when the boat is in the water year round?

I'm just looking for ranges of time and cost because I have no clue.
 

Tom J

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Sep 30, 2008
2,325
Catalina 310 Quincy, MA
My boat gets hauled out every fall and I repaint the bottom every spring,thus I have zero experience with this so I'm curious:

How often does the bottom need to be cleaned and how much does it cost for say, a 30ft fin keel like a Catalina?
Also, how often do you need to haul out and paint the bottom when the boat is in the water year round?

I'm just looking for ranges of time and cost because I have no clue.
How often depends on where you are. In Florida, my boat's bottom needed cleaning once or twice a month. I always did it myself, so I don't know costs. I hauled every two years or so and repainted the bottom. In New England, I clean the bottom two or three times a season, and, of course, the boat gets hauled each fall. I use Hydracoat, so I touch up the bottom paint each spring, and put on a fresh coat every two or three years.
 

dLj

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Mar 23, 2017
5,064
Belliure 41 Back in the Chesapeake
My boat gets hauled out every fall and I repaint the bottom every spring,thus I have zero experience with this so I'm curious:

How often does the bottom need to be cleaned and how much does it cost for say, a 30ft fin keel like a Catalina?
Also, how often do you need to haul out and paint the bottom when the boat is in the water year round?

I'm just looking for ranges of time and cost because I have no clue.
Depends upon where your boat is kept. Fresh water, brackish or sea water. It also depends upon exactly where geographically in whatever of those types of water your boat is in.

When I sailed where I kept my boat year round in ocean water I would preasure wash the boat once a year and clean the bottom at anchor with a stiff brush a couple times during the summer months.

Up on Champlain which is fresh water I pressure wash once a year because I have to take the boat out of the water because the lake freezes. Otherwise I could probably just brush the bottom at the beginning of the season and might have to pressure wash once every couple years. I've never had a boat in brackish water.

If you race, clean before each race...

dj
 
Feb 26, 2011
1,440
Achilles SD-130 Alameda, CA
How often does the bottom need to be cleaned and how much does it cost for say, a 30ft fin keel like a Catalina?
Also, how often do you need to haul out and paint the bottom when the boat is in the water year round?
Cleaning frequencies and prices vary widely from region to region. Here in the Bay Area, we clean every two months and the going rate is $3/foot. In Southern California, cleaning happens very 3-4 weeks but the price is about half what we get up here. These relatively frequent cleanings means the bottom can always be cleaned gently, thereby extending the useful lifespan of the anti fouling paint. Not unusual to have boats go 3-4 years between haulouts for paint here.
 

FDL S2

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Jun 29, 2014
485
S2 7.3 Fond du Lac
Cleaning frequencies and prices vary widely from region to region. Here in the Bay Area, we clean every two months and the going rate is $3/foot. In Southern California, cleaning happens very 3-4 weeks but the price is about half what we get up here. These relatively frequent cleanings means the bottom can always be cleaned gently, thereby extending the useful lifespan of the anti fouling paint. Not unusual to have boats go 3-4 years between haulouts for paint here.
Thank you @Tom J, @dLj and @fstbttms for your replies. That was what I was wondering.
 
Feb 17, 2006
5,274
Lancer 27PS MCB Camp Pendleton KF6BL
@FDL S2 you might venture off and take diving lessons. This way you can legally inspect the bottom of your own boat. When I say legal I mean having your own tanks to fill or renting tanks. Sure, you can snorkel but that limits your down time to the size of your lungs. That was the reason I got my diving cert. I seldom go in anymore but at least it is still valid.