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Aug 15, 2006
157
Beneteau 373 Toronto
I'm the Guy with the new Boat

I bought a brand new Bene 373 delivered in early 2007, so have sailed it two years. The actual maintenance costs have been about $2,500 per year, or just over 1%. This includes the following: Diesel mechanic for winter shutdown - many do this themselves Sail loft work - torn batten pocket, worn loop at tack Replace lost pelican hook Cleaning supplies - they add up to a couple of hundred/year Upgrade dock lines - not really maintenance but out of pocket anyway Batteries etc for hand helds, flashlights, etc As a non-racer I expect to get at least 10 years out of my sails, so probably they are getting used up at the rate of about $1,500 per year. I don't expect to need an engine overhaul for a very long time as it is well maintained and gets few hours. We are in cold fresh water and need to paint only every three to four years. Altogether, I think the maintenance including long-term wear and tear is probably less than $6k per year, say 3%. As others have pointed out, docking, winter storage, insurance and consumables is a whole other matter - easily another $6k to $8k per year. So total operating costs are including everything may be $14k or 7% of the cost of the boat. Of course the boat depreciates the minute you sail away from the broker, and you never get back the taxes, transport, prep etc. Probably figure 5% a year off the base price for depreciation. That's what really ends up costing you with a new boat.
 
Aug 15, 2006
157
Beneteau 373 Toronto
I'm the Guy with the new Boat

I bought a brand new Bene 373 delivered in early 2007, so have sailed it two years. The actual maintenance costs have been about $2,500 per year, or just over 1%. This includes the following: Diesel mechanic for winter shutdown - many do this themselves Sail loft work - torn batten pocket, worn loop at tack Replace lost pelican hook Cleaning supplies - they add up to a couple of hundred/year Upgrade dock lines - not really maintenance but out of pocket anyway Batteries etc for hand helds, flashlights, etc As a non-racer I expect to get at least 10 years out of my sails, so probably they are getting used up at the rate of about $1,500 per year. I don't expect to need an engine overhaul for a very long time as it is well maintained and gets few hours. We are in cold fresh water and need to paint only every three to four years. Altogether, I think the maintenance including long-term wear and tear is probably less than $6k per year, say 3%. As others have pointed out, docking, winter storage, insurance and consumables is a whole other matter - easily another $6k to $8k per year. So total operating costs are including everything may be $14k or 7% of the cost of the boat. Of course the boat depreciates the minute you sail away from the broker, and you never get back the taxes, transport, prep etc. Probably figure 5% a year off the base price for depreciation. That's what really ends up costing you with a new boat.
 
Aug 9, 2005
772
Hunter 28.5 Palm Coast, FL
Easily 10% to 20% yearly

And if you ad a few new electronics...even more. If you want cheap and easy, buy a canoe.
 
Aug 9, 2005
772
Hunter 28.5 Palm Coast, FL
Easily 10% to 20% yearly

And if you ad a few new electronics...even more. If you want cheap and easy, buy a canoe.
 
Jan 27, 2007
383
Irwin 37' center cockpit cleveland ohio
easily 10%

Mostly it's called depreciation. To get an idea, sink your boat. Not really, but think like your boat was sunk, and raised. How much to bring it back to new? How long does it take your boat to get to the point where it resembles a boat that sunk? Now lets look at another example. You drive a new Porche (you devil you). All I got is a Dodge Caravan with 180,000 miles on it. We both need tires. Mine cost $300 on a car worth $1000? Yours cost $800 on a $80,000 ride. What is the percentage?
 
Jan 27, 2007
383
Irwin 37' center cockpit cleveland ohio
easily 10%

Mostly it's called depreciation. To get an idea, sink your boat. Not really, but think like your boat was sunk, and raised. How much to bring it back to new? How long does it take your boat to get to the point where it resembles a boat that sunk? Now lets look at another example. You drive a new Porche (you devil you). All I got is a Dodge Caravan with 180,000 miles on it. We both need tires. Mine cost $300 on a car worth $1000? Yours cost $800 on a $80,000 ride. What is the percentage?
 

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Jun 15, 2004
14,693
Islander/Wayfairer 30 sail number 25 Perryville,Md.
Just what do you do to a boat that costs

3000 dollars every year?
 

Ross

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Jun 15, 2004
14,693
Islander/Wayfairer 30 sail number 25 Perryville,Md.
Just what do you do to a boat that costs

3000 dollars every year?
 
Feb 17, 2006
5,274
Lancer 27PS MCB Camp Pendleton KF6BL
The most I have spent on my boat...

Was $700+ for an autopilot. I look at anything costing 20% or more to be not worth the trouble. I paid $8900 and feel it was well worth it. But say if a new/refurbished headsail and roller furling costs more than about $1800, to me that is too costly. I have to look at the return of what I put in. So I would say, in my case, an average yearly maintenances cost is about 10%. I will have to haul and paint and that will be just about that figure, but that is spread over three years.
 
Feb 17, 2006
5,274
Lancer 27PS MCB Camp Pendleton KF6BL
The most I have spent on my boat...

Was $700+ for an autopilot. I look at anything costing 20% or more to be not worth the trouble. I paid $8900 and feel it was well worth it. But say if a new/refurbished headsail and roller furling costs more than about $1800, to me that is too costly. I have to look at the return of what I put in. So I would say, in my case, an average yearly maintenances cost is about 10%. I will have to haul and paint and that will be just about that figure, but that is spread over three years.
 
Jun 1, 2005
772
Pearson 303 Robinhood, ME
They wanted 39,000...

I paid $30,000 for a used boat. I can spend $4,000 for hauling; mooring fees; comissioning and de-comissioning at the yard... $600 for insurance... $150 for Sea Tow... just the basics. So that money is thrown away... another $1,000 for a building pot... just in case something major down the road. It is basically a car payment. I plan to do more work myself each year as I get more familar with the vessel. It's a strain living in Maine... The state government trys to put the boots to you every which way... and they do. Maine sucks (not business friendly)... except for the sailing. Rich
 
Jun 1, 2005
772
Pearson 303 Robinhood, ME
They wanted 39,000...

I paid $30,000 for a used boat. I can spend $4,000 for hauling; mooring fees; comissioning and de-comissioning at the yard... $600 for insurance... $150 for Sea Tow... just the basics. So that money is thrown away... another $1,000 for a building pot... just in case something major down the road. It is basically a car payment. I plan to do more work myself each year as I get more familar with the vessel. It's a strain living in Maine... The state government trys to put the boots to you every which way... and they do. Maine sucks (not business friendly)... except for the sailing. Rich
 

Ross

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Jun 15, 2004
14,693
Islander/Wayfairer 30 sail number 25 Perryville,Md.
Rich, The original post excluded dockage and insurance

But what is a building Pot?
 

Ross

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Jun 15, 2004
14,693
Islander/Wayfairer 30 sail number 25 Perryville,Md.
Rich, The original post excluded dockage and insurance

But what is a building Pot?
 
Jun 1, 2005
772
Pearson 303 Robinhood, ME
building pot...

When I need a new engine/tranny/sails... the money "MIGHT" be there.
 
Jun 1, 2005
772
Pearson 303 Robinhood, ME
building pot...

When I need a new engine/tranny/sails... the money "MIGHT" be there.
 

Ross

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Jun 15, 2004
14,693
Islander/Wayfairer 30 sail number 25 Perryville,Md.
As in "pot of gold at the end of the rainbow". ;D

smart planning, also called a sinking fund. Like the periodic need for a new roof on a house.
 

Ross

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Jun 15, 2004
14,693
Islander/Wayfairer 30 sail number 25 Perryville,Md.
As in "pot of gold at the end of the rainbow". ;D

smart planning, also called a sinking fund. Like the periodic need for a new roof on a house.
 
Oct 18, 2007
707
Macgregor 26S Lucama, NC
Ouch!

Let's not call it a "sinking" fund... that's among the words I don't want to hear! :D
 
Oct 18, 2007
707
Macgregor 26S Lucama, NC
Ouch!

Let's not call it a "sinking" fund... that's among the words I don't want to hear! :D
 
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