Yamaha 25 keel and engine

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Mar 3, 2011
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Yamaha 25II New Bern, NC
We cut 500 pounds off the bottom of the iron keel. Cutting iron is difficult. We need less draft in NC. Installed a new 1GM10 that's fits well. Currently adjusting the 22 mm shaft for a RH prop. 22 mm and 7/8 inch is the same thing. Looking forward to some coastal sailing. We may need a permanent reef or some inside lead with the modified keel.
 

Ted

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Jan 26, 2005
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C&C 110 Bay Shore, Long Island, NY
What was the original draft and new draft? On a 25 foot boat, 500 pounds of cast iron is a substantial amount of keel area and ballast. You have not only affected the boat's stability but its pointing ability. Have you considered adding a bulb to the bottom of the remaining keel. Contact Mars Keels in Canada. You would probably have to add back the original weight plus 20% or more to regain the original stability. Mars Keels will be able to give you more specifics.
 
Mar 3, 2011
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Yamaha 25II New Bern, NC
My modified keel

Thanks for your suggestions. The modified boat's balast to displacement ratio is 31% and the draft should be close to 4 feet. I think it is going to work as is and I will report the results of the first sail when it happens.
 

Ted

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Jan 26, 2005
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C&C 110 Bay Shore, Long Island, NY
I did some poking around on the internet for specs on the Yamaha 25. The displacement is 3748, ballast is 1433, ballast to displacement ratio would be 38%. If you removed 500 pounds from the keel, the ballast would now be 933 and the ballast to displacement ratio will now be 25%. I'm sure you'll notice a big difference. The original draft was 5'-5" and you reduced it to 4'-0". Those changes are sure to yield substantial changes in the sailing characteristics of your modified boat. I'm not a naval architect but I would think you are going to have a very tender boat. I have to wonder what this has done to the limit of positive stability. Might be scary dangerous! :eek:

http://www.yamahasailboats.org/Brochure page 3.jpg
 
Mar 2, 2008
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Cal 25 mk II T-Bird Marina, West Vancouver
The Yamaha 25 mkII is a great sailboat. I hope you haven’t created a worthless powerboat.

My question is, how does the new Yanmar 1GM10 with the vertical cylinder fit under the V-berth space that was designed for a horizontal cylinder YSM-8. My CAL has the bigger brother (horizontal cylinder) YSM-12 and I always wondered if a newer vertical Yanmar would fit.
 
Mar 3, 2011
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Yamaha 25II New Bern, NC
For accurate calculation purposes, you need to remove the 500 pounds from the total displacement. I have a plan "B" if the keel doesn't work well. The new engine is smaller in size. No problem with the engine's vertical fit under the V-berth. Lots of room around the outside of the engine. The prop shaft has to be recut for an American prop. It needs a RH prop and the shaft may become too short during the recut. I am currently having my shaft extended 12 inches.
 

Boffin

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Aug 30, 2010
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yahama 25 Hong Kong
The new 1GM10 fit well in the Yamaha 25 , I just replaced the old YSM8
 
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