Happy new year! We are the new owners of a 1981 33 in Cleveland Ohio. The rig is currently up but the midstay is missing. Is this somthing that is optional? Also, it has been modified to be on a track. Thank you
Y-33 Midstay
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You didn't mention whether you have the tall rig or not. It may make a difference. Looking at your chainplates and shrouds, it could be a tall rig.
When we re-rigged, I asked about rigging the the babystay to be removable. He said 2 things - first the babystay is needed to keep the mast from pumping. The Y33 has a bendy mast and the babystay is not optional. The second thng he said was that we could rig it to be removeable for downwind work, but forgetting to set it again when upwind was risky. I ended up leaving it. My observation is that the babystay is needed to counteract the forces of the aft lower shrouds.
I have no clue as to how that track might be used.
-Mike
You didn't mention whether you have the tall rig or not. It may make a difference. Looking at your chainplates and shrouds, it could be a tall rig.
When we re-rigged, I asked about rigging the the babystay to be removable. He said 2 things - first the babystay is needed to keep the mast from pumping. The Y33 has a bendy mast and the babystay is not optional. The second thng he said was that we could rig it to be removeable for downwind work, but forgetting to set it again when upwind was risky. I ended up leaving it. My observation is that the babystay is needed to counteract the forces of the aft lower shrouds.
I have no clue as to how that track might be used.
-Mike
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Hi Mike, thank you for the info. Yes, it is a tall rig. I was guessing the track was used to free up some space on the fordeck while going down wind
Yes, the track is to allow variable tension on the babystay.. to reduce pumping, as mentioned, but also another way to induce some mast bend on a masthead rig. Many C&C boats from that era had similar setups.
The babystay in place is a major PITA if you're end-for-end gybing a spinnaker pole or using a whisker pole.
I doubt the rig would fail/fall down if you got rid of it... but, esp for choppy upwind upwind conditions, you'll appreciate it.
The babystay in place is a major PITA if you're end-for-end gybing a spinnaker pole or using a whisker pole.
I doubt the rig would fail/fall down if you got rid of it... but, esp for choppy upwind upwind conditions, you'll appreciate it.
I saw one that has a fixed stay position on a 1981 boat.
Looks like it could serve as a small jib or storm sail shroud. This at least looks like it would be a decent anchor point, that could be backed and perhaps braced to the hull. If the mast got pumping, with out strong support I would be worried the location would lack the needed strength.
I would be concerned about a track system to serve this strong point fixture.
Looks like it could serve as a small jib or storm sail shroud. This at least looks like it would be a decent anchor point, that could be backed and perhaps braced to the hull. If the mast got pumping, with out strong support I would be worried the location would lack the needed strength.
I would be concerned about a track system to serve this strong point fixture.
John - that's how mine is rigged. There is a stout backing plate underneath that fitting, attached to a bulkhead. Very strong, like everything else on the Yammies. The triangle is too small to fly a sail, I looked at it too. There's no question that the babystay makes gybing the spinnaker a PITA, but we're not racing.
I have a Yamaha 30 tall rig. My mast has the same baby stay as does the other 5 in the marina. The standard rigs have a baby stay as well. I just had all my standing rigging replaced and queried that same question with the rigging company. The long time owner Stu said he's done rigging on many Yamaha 30's and said that baby stay is essential to the integrity of the mast. He said you have to keep it or risk you rig. You can chat with Stu at Pro-Tech in Vancouver and he'd be happy to chat with you.
I have seen a lever release on one Yamaha 30 where the baby stay is released so you can put a tender on the foredeck while motoring. That I expect would be safe to do.
I have seen a lever release on one Yamaha 30 where the baby stay is released so you can put a tender on the foredeck while motoring. That I expect would be safe to do.
New Owner of 1979 Yamaha 33. The forward baby stay on my boat is a line running back to the cockpit so it can be tensioned by winch on the cabin top or released to slack it
It's hard to imagine that you could get enough tension on the babystay with that method. Maybe with a multipart tackle.
My rigger also noted that it was a critical part of the rig. I should have requested a hyfield lever on it when I rerigged, so I could store a dinghy on deck. Maybe someday.
My rigger also noted that it was a critical part of the rig. I should have requested a hyfield lever on it when I rerigged, so I could store a dinghy on deck. Maybe someday.