Wing on Wing-Asymetric and Genoa

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Bill

Can you go wing on wing with an asymetrical spinnaker and a 153 genoa? My asymetric cannot go dead down wind so I was thinking that going wing on wing with the genoa might work. If it works, then what should I do with the main? Is this something that might work for single handed races? Thanks
 
Mar 13, 2004
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Hunter 356 Port Huron, MI
I do it on my 356...

I run wing-on-wing with the ASM and a 155%, if the wind is strong enough to get hull speed. I drop the main or bring it back to centerline to keep it from blanketing the other sails. This is legal to the RRS, but you cannot use a whisker or spinnaker pole on the jib is a spinnaker is flying as well. Our class rules do not allow a pole with an ASM. This configuration requires concentration by both sheet trimmers and the helm, with good communication between them to keep the boat moving fast in the slot. I wouldn't recommend it for shorthanded sailing. Steve
 
Mar 20, 2004
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Hunter 356 and 216 Portland, ME
wing on wing

we sail our 356 wing on wing with our Doyle UPS (about a 190%) and the main, we've also flown it with the std jib and no main-great for downwind in a sea, fast and easy to steer! However, Steve's right, it does take a lot of concentration to keep the jib winged-we're adding a whisker pole to steady the jib this year.
 
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Bill

What about the performance?

How does the performance (speed) compare to sailing with a traditional spinnaker with a pole and the main when going dead down wind? I ask this because I will be racing single and double handed this year against boats who have traditional spinnakers and I do not own one. Thanks
 
Mar 3, 2004
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Beneteau 361 Marblehead
Does PHRF allows it?

I have done it while cruising and found that one needs to drop the main to keep both head sails full (at least on low wind conditions). In those conditions I found it helps compared with keeping the main up reaching or going wing on wing.
 
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Allen

PHRF DOES allow it, but...

Great post...PHRF does allow it, but only one sail can be poled out. Allen Schweitzer s/v Falstaff C-30 Hull #632
 
Sep 24, 1999
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Hunter H46LE Sausalito
Wrong! Check RRS 50.3 (c)

First of all, PHRF is a handicapping system. They are not a governing body for racing rules. The Racing Rules of Sailing specifically say, "A headsail may be sheeted or attached at its clew to a spinnaker pole or whisker pole, provided that a spinnaker is not set." [RRS 50.3 (c)].
 
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Tom Monroe

Am I missing something?

Am I missing something? Bill's original post says, "My asymetric cannot go dead down wind ..." Only way I know to go wing-and-wing IS dead downwind. What's up? Tom Monroe Carlyle Lake
 
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