Winch, making it electric

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Jim Kissinger

With the in-mast furling main it takes me forever to crank it in. So I am thinking of installing an electric motor to my Lewmar 4.0 winch.(Its got a little decal on it telling me that it is possible) Has anyone done this already and could share with me the success or lack of? My boat guy says it will cost me about $2600 to do it. Is this a reasonable price?
 

Ross

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Jun 15, 2004
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Islander/Wayfairer 30 sail number 25 Perryville,Md.
A reasonable price? How large is your bank

balance. I think a Battery powered drill with an adapter for the winding port will do the same job for about 150 dollars.
 

Mike B

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Apr 15, 2007
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Beneteau 43 Baltimore, MD
Power winch jams

I can't comment on the cost but a dealer I know comments on how nice they are. They take the work out of sailing a bigger boat. The downside is you can't just crank them without keeping an eye on the sails and sheets/halyards. They have enough power to jam either to a point you wouldn't want to deal with. As long as you stay attentive their fine.
 

Mike B

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Apr 15, 2007
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Beneteau 43 Baltimore, MD
Battery power

Forgot to mention that you can address Ross's issue of battery power by just cranking the motor up prior to furling. Chances are you do that anyway, I know I do.
 
Dec 2, 1999
15,184
Hunter Vision-36 Rio Vista, CA.
$1200 for a winch buddy!

or a real electric winch for $2000. Jim, I would just jump for the extra buck and get the real think. We have one for our main and it is wonderful. It also makes going up stick very quick and easy. I just wish our boat had two of them.
 

Ross

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Jun 15, 2004
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Islander/Wayfairer 30 sail number 25 Perryville,Md.
I was talking about a portable

1/2 inch type drill. You know a Dewalt, Hilti, Makita, Ryobi, Milwaukie etc.
 

Mike B

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Apr 15, 2007
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Beneteau 43 Baltimore, MD
Not enough torque?

Ross I doubt a drill of the types you mention would have enough torque and power to get the job done. I know what it takes on mine and can't imagine getting the job done with a cordless, no matter the size.
 
Sep 25, 2008
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Alden 50 Sarasota, Florida
3 best inventions

1. electric winch 2. autopilot 3. ice maker priorities may differ depending on time of day
 
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Benny

Don't forget an exercise machine.

With all the power assisted gadgets we have to get our exercise somehow.
 
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David

In mast furling

Jim, I have a 2005 38 ft Hunter with in mast furling that I have owned since new. Perhaps your drag/friction problem lies else where. I have never had to winch my main sail in. I always hand over hand it and it winds up just as fast as I can pull the the furler line in.
 

higgs

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Aug 24, 2005
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Nassau 34 Olcott, NY
Cordless drills

The large sized angle drills made by companies like Milwaukee do have the power to gridn winches like Ross says. A decent machinist can make one a bit for a reasonable price. The winch buddy is nothing more than this, but more expensive.
 
Dec 19, 2006
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Hunter 36 Punta Gorda
By Hand

You should be able to pull it in by had,point in to the wind first,my 36 can always be do by hand. Try it and have great day we are off sailing to CT. today Nick
 

Ross

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Jun 15, 2004
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Islander/Wayfairer 30 sail number 25 Perryville,Md.
Mike, You must not have ever

had a large battery powered drill jamb on you. It feels like it could break your arm.
 
Sep 21, 2006
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-Hunter 35.5 Washington, NC
Milwaukee works

Milwaukee 18v right angle drill about $250. I actually think they've upgraded it to 24V now. For the bit go to ebay and type in winch bit. I got mine for $20. Hurt my shoulder last year and had a hard time winching up the main, this solution works great and is a lot less than a winch buddy. It'll also trim a jib in a heartbeat. Just gotta be careful you don't have a line jam. Have also used it to haul somebody up the mast.
 
Oct 3, 2006
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Hunter 29.5 Toms River
The nice thing about a drill

Is that they have durable torque-limiting clutches. Assuming it's a usable amount of torque (which, the higher settings are usually prety close to the max torque anyway), you could use that feature to avoid overloading anything.
 
Apr 26, 2005
286
Beneteau Oceanis 390 Tsehum Harbour, BC, Canada
In-Mast Furling Joys

My in-mast furling is a bear if I do not: 1. keep the boom to port when furling in, 2. regularly spray McLube on the furling drum and bearings 3. keep the furling in-haul free from twists, 4. keep the vang released, 5. keep the topping lift adjusted so the boom is parallel to the ocean, 6. keep the boom car well lubed, 7. keep the outhaul running freely through it's rope clutch when furling in, 8. make sure the furling in-haul line is in good shape and replaced every two years. If I do all that, furling-in is a snap and take a few seconds. I cannot imagine having to use a drill and bit to get the thing in. Peter
 
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Jim Kissinger

Wow

Wow, I can't imagine just hand over hand bringing in the main on my Hunter 38. It is not hard work winching it in just that it takes considerable amount of time. My arm gets tired. I am not thinking of going for the drill idea, but motorizing the winch. I think I'll try some of the lubrications and see if it makes it significantly better.
 

Ross

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Jun 15, 2004
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Islander/Wayfairer 30 sail number 25 Perryville,Md.
Have you ever counted the turns on the handle?

;-)
 
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