Why do I Have to Share Insurance With Boaters Like This?

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May 11, 2005
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Seidelman S37 Slidell, La.
To quick to judge

I think some of you guys are being too quick to judge this couple. Unless you know much more than has been posted. I have found myself in conditions a couple of times that could have lead to a situation like this very easily. One night in the Tortugas I found myself dragging. After a couple attempts to re set, I pulled the anchor and found a big long chunk of net that had it fouled. So much that I couldn't pull it all up, and had to cut it off to clear the anchor. Another instance, which I have previously posted, I ran for over 12 hours from an approaching front, that was not expected. Ended up being blown aground, out a a narrow channel. Partly because it was pitch black out, partly because the channel was poorly marked, and partly because I was physically and mentally exhausted. Don't blame someone, when you do not know all the circumstances surrounding the event. As for the boat brand, exactly what does that have to do with it.
 
Apr 22, 2001
497
Hunter 420 Norfolk, VA
Re: Buck420

Nick,

The referenced newspaper article says he's retired Air Force ...
I walked down to the beach just an hour ago to look at the boat. It is definitely a H-420 and lettering has been removed from the port and starboard sides where the picture of "Bella" posted under "Boat Info" (photo gallery) on this site shows the boat lettering "B E L L A". It also has the same fiberglass arch and davits.
 
Dec 19, 2006
5,819
Hunter 36 Punta Gorda
BUCK

I can't say for sure but Bill BELL did sell his 420 named BELLA about 2 years ago and never met the guy who purchased her but did see the boat in BURNT STORE marina for awhile and told to me by other sailors that the new owner was retired navy and they were newly weds and after learning to sail her were going to KW,I was told by others he was new to sailing and they were all worried when ever he was in the marina practicing docking around them and that he should get help,so don't think maybe same.
Nick
 
Apr 22, 2001
497
Hunter 420 Norfolk, VA
Re: BUCK

Well ...

If Bill Bell hasn't heard yet, his (old) boat had a rough ride to an Ocean View Beach... But, he'd be proud of her .. she is/was a tough old girl; survived tropical force winds, and 10ft seas that crashed her OVER a rock groin and well up onto the beach... broke off about a third of her rudder, pulled the windless out of the bow, tore up her jib and the clew of her main... but,otherwise, (apparently) no other MAJOR damage.

People can trash Hunters if they like ... but the facts speak for themselves.
 

Nodak7

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Sep 28, 2008
1,256
Hunter 41DS Punta Gorda, FL
I learned real fast when anhored in the Dry Totugas with 50' chain and 50'rode of scope :eek:relaxing with drink in hand and watched my boat dragging past 2 other sailboats and dragging towards the docks quickly rushed to motor out of trouble,the storm up real quick,anyway now have 100' of chain 125' rode which we have tested in a few other stormy Florida weather.
I was lucky with my mistake thinking the weather would stay beautiful and I did not hit anything that dark night.
Nick
Actually Seadaddler my worse experience was at anchor and thinking the weather would stay beautiful (it was when we went to bed). it just turned to s**t later in the night. Always be prepared!
 
Mar 26, 2011
3,677
Corsair F-24 MK I Deale, MD
I think some of you guys are being too quick to judge this couple. Unless you know much more than has been posted. I have found myself in conditions a couple of times that could have lead to a situation like this very easily.... Don't blame someone, when you do not know all the circumstances surrounding the event.
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A lot of truth here. However, there are 2 facts that remain:
* An educated and equipment-wise sailor would not leave the anchor secured to the windlass, and certainly not in extreem conditions. A bridle and heavy cleats are required. This is basic.
* A huriicane is not a surprise. We knew it was coming for at least 5 days. A prudent sailor calmly takes action early.

My question is the length of their apprentiship. I doubt they got their asses kicked enough times on a small boat to build a deep respect for nature. It is fun to read tales of daring do on the high seas. It's 21st century human nature to belive we can bend nature to our will. It is different after you have lost a few times.

http://sail-delmarva.blogspot.com/2010/04/merits-of-learning-to-sail-on-small.html

I both more bold and less bold than when I started this game. I made similar (but smaller) mistakes sailing (on smaller boats) in my first few years. All is well if they understand the mistakes. Too bad the price of education was high.
 
Jul 29, 2010
1,392
Macgregor 76 V-25 #928 Lake Mead, Nevada
Apparently Sympathy falls between S..t and Syphillis in some of your dictionaries. There but for fortune go you or I. Karma is a bitch. I've never been in a hurricane but I can imagine it to be a pretty bad experience. I suppose all those boats washed up during Katrina deserve the same empathy. Apparently the owner has been thrown in jail and the boat is going to hacked up for salvage by the locals. Fair Winds and Full Sails....
 
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Nov 9, 2008
1,338
Pearson-O'Day 290 Portland Maine
Hey Buck,

Is there something wrong with being retired Air Force??? Last time I checked the educational and cognitive requirements for joining the Air Force were much higher than any of the other armed forces. At least they were when I enlisted in the Air Force.

This guy made a bad decision and it cost him. How many bad decision by sailors have cost other people? He made a run for it and his engine failed.

Let's show a little compassion, fellow sailors, and reflect on the stupidity that we, ourselves, have lived to tell about.
 
Feb 26, 2004
22,996
Catalina 34 224 Maple Bay, BC, Canada
+1 (and I was never in the Air force unless ROTC in 1963 counts!).

The stupidity of the town is worse than any issues the skipper may have encountered.

Bloodsucking leeches!!!
 

Ross

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Jun 15, 2004
14,693
Islander/Wayfairer 30 sail number 25 Perryville,Md.
If you run your RV into a ditch someone is going to tow it out and you are going to pay. If your RV breaks down on the interstate and you jump on your motorscooter to go into town and take a nap someone may tow it and you will have to pay. So if your boat breaks down and stops on the beach and you go away from it someone may tow it and you will have to pay.
 
Sep 20, 2006
2,952
Hunter 33 Georgian Bay, Ontario, Canada
Hey Buck,

Is there something wrong with being retired Air Force??? Last time I checked the educational and cognitive requirements for joining the Air Force were much higher than any of the other armed forces. At least they were when I enlisted in the Air Force.

This guy made a bad decision and it cost him. How many bad decision by sailors have cost other people? He made a run for it and his engine failed.

Let's show a little compassion, fellow sailors, and reflect on the stupidity that we, ourselves, have lived to tell about.

I believe Buck's response was to Seadaddlers previous post on the buyer being retired Navy, nothing more.
 
Jun 19, 2004
512
Catalina 387 Hull # 24 Port Charlotte, Florida
Updated: Wednesday, 31 Aug 2011, 11:51 AM EDT
Published : Wednesday, 31 Aug 2011, 11:47 AM EDT
  • By LOUIS HANSEN, The Virginian-Pilot
NORFOLK, Va. (AP) - The sailor rescued from the Chesapeake Bay during the hurricane needs another life-line.
A day after Michael Calabrese, his girlfriend and cat were pulled by emergency workers from their battered 42-foot yacht, police arrested him Sunday night for trespassing at a city shelter.
On Monday, a judge lowered Calabrese's bail but the city issued him a citation - move your yacht in the next week, or we'll chop it up and take it away.
"I'm about to lose everything I own," Calabrese said during an interview Tuesday in the jail. He was unable to come up with a $50 down payment to make bond.
Calabrese, 48, does not know where to find his girlfriend and cat, Meeka. Calls to his girlfriend's phone Tuesday were not answered.
The boat came to rest on the beach near 9th View Street in Ocean View, between two stone jetties and a row of condos, cottages and beach homes. Beachgoers have flocked to the wreck. City officials say some have hopped over the yellow police tape and climbed aboard.
Deputy Norfolk City Attorney Cindy Hall said the wreck posed a public nuisance and needed to be removed.
"We don't want anybody to get hurt," she said.
Calabrese was cited Tuesday for a misdemeanor accumulation of solid waste and given until next Monday to remove it.
City and Coast Guard officials met with Calabrese in jail and discussed ways to get it off the sand, Hall said. The city does not have money to remove the boat in one piece, she said. Workers would have to dismantle the vessel and haul it out over the beach, she said.
Coast Guard Chief Petty Officer Angela Vallier inspected the sailboat and said it had a small amount of diesel fuel aboard and few hazardous materials that pose an immediate threat. Vallier said its unclear how much damage the boat suffered.
"It was thrown around, it was beat up," she said. "It's not seaworthy."
Calabrese never thought Hurricane Irene would catch him. He has been sailing for 20 years and had taken the craft, a Hunter sailboat known first as Bella and later as Maybe Tomorrow, through rough weather in Florida and along the East Coast.
He said the couple bought the boat outright for $140,000 two years ago, and invested another $25,000 to make it their home. They were afraid their boat might get tossed around in a smaller marina and end up on a deck, he said. So they sailed north, ahead of Irene, to a more secure port. "We decided together to try to beat the storm," he said.
Early Friday night, the couple started out from Portsmouth up the Elizabeth River, he said. He knew it was running late, he said, "but we can fly. We can get out of here."
They had to move under sail power because the diesel engines were disabled, he said.
The ship cruised up the river, but struggled as they reached the bay. The sea was choppy and about three feet high, he said. They anchored in the bay not far from Willoughby Spit, he said.
They slept. "Somewhere in the middle of the night we started rockin' and rollin'," he said. He threw a second anchor over the bow.
At about 6 a.m., everything started to go wrong. Calabrese said he tried to adjust the rigging. A sail tore and hardware broke around the deck. The anchors failed to hold in the hurricane driven waves. Below deck, the boat started taking water. Furniture thrashed back and forth with the sea.
The storm pushed Maybe Tomorrow toward a set of stone jetties. At some point, Calabrese said he called "Mayday, Mayday, Mayday" on his radio.
The beach filled with rescue workers. The boat slammed into the jetties again and again, he said. Finally, the sea popped the boat over the stone breaker and onto shore.
Rescue workers surrounded the couple and their pet and took them to an ambulance, he said. The couple suffered a few cuts and bruises, but no serious injuries, he said.
"We made a bad decision," he said. He was not drinking during the trip, he said.
On Sunday, the couple returned to the boat to get some of their possessions, he said. They had a nice meal and relaxed, and Calabrese said he drank a couple of beers. His girlfriend returned to Bayview Recreational Center, where they were staying, he said. Calabrese tried to see her, but the employees at the rec center smelled alcohol on his breath, he said.
Court records said Calabrese was "nasty (cursing everyone) and very argumentative."
According to court and police records, Calabrese has been charged with alcohol-related offenses several times in Hampton Roads. In 2009, Hampton police arrested him on Buckroe beach for taking a swim, naked and intoxicated, according to a public police account. Calabrese was found guilty of indecent exposure and a charge of drunk in public was dropped, court records state.
Calabrese, a disabled Air Force veteran, said he went through a difficult divorce in 2004, lost custody of his children, and struggled in his personal life. Now, he has another struggle.
Calabrese does not know exactly what damage the ship has suffered. He has a few ideas about how to have it removed,
he said. He does not want to see it chopped up.
"If the world wants to call me crazy," he said, "I thought could beat that storm."
 
Jun 19, 2004
512
Catalina 387 Hull # 24 Port Charlotte, Florida
Police: Boater defecates in squad car

Sailboat owner reportedly drunk when arrested

Updated: Monday, 12 Sep 2011, 9:44 PM EDT
Published : Friday, 02 Sep 2011, 1:38 PM EDT
NORFOLK, Va. (WAVY) - Thursday night, police arrested the sailboat owner, Michael Calabrese, for a second time since that incident. Calabrese is accused of being drunk in public. He also reportedly defecated in the back of a police car.
Calabrese met with the Coast Guard and city staff at the site where the boat washed ashore during the storm. According to Norfolk spokeswoman Lori Crouch, Calabrese appeared to be intoxicated, but denied it. There were beer and other alcohol bottles strewn on the beach nearby.
Coast Guard personnel asked Calabrese what his plan of action was to remove the badly damaged sailboat from the beach. He reportedly said he wanted to dig a pit from the boat to the water and then tow the boat to Cobbs Marina. The Coast Guard told him this was not possible, as the vessel was not seaworthy.
Calabrese then agreed to have a detailed plan to the city by noon Friday explaining how he would manage to load the boat onto a trailer for towing instead.
Sometime after city and Coast Guard officials parted ways with Calabrese Thursday night, Norfolk Police arrested him.
This was Calabrese's second arrest since the August 27 rescue. Calabrese ended up behind bars after he was arrested for allegedly being drunk at a hurricane rescue shelter.
In addition, a judge issued Calabrese a citation to remove the boat from the beach, giving him a September 5 deadline.
Stay with WAVY News 10 on air and online as this story continues to develop.
 
Jun 19, 2004
512
Catalina 387 Hull # 24 Port Charlotte, Florida
Company removes burned boat

Officials: Fire ruled suspicious

Updated: Thursday, 15 Sep 2011, 8:40 AM EDT
Published : Wednesday, 14 Sep 2011, 10:22 AM EDT
NORFOLK, Va. (WAVY) - American Marine Group removed the charred remains of "Maybe Tomorrow" Wednesday afternoon.
Tim Mullane, with American Marine Group, picked through and removed what was left of the 40 foot yacht.
“There's a little anchor, a little chain, a lead keel, a propeller, a shaft and a mast if you wanted to build a sailboat. You would begin with that mast,” Mullane said.
The company volunteered to remove the boat from Ocean View at no cost to Norfolk, according to Norfolk Fire Department spokesman Harry Worley.
Mullane contributed his efforts with the understanding he would keep whatever is salvageable.
The total cost for the company to remove the boat will be between $1,000 and $2,000, according to the Norfolk Fire Department.
The city will provide the dumpster and disposal fees for the remains of the boat.
Neighbors who have lived with the sight and smell of the burned-out, beached boat were happy to see it gone for good.
“It's been a lot of inconvenience. There is so much traffic, and so many people want to see it. It is unbelievable. I'm happy for whatever someone wants to do. I'm real happy,” said Elizabeth Kanary, who lives nearby.
"Maybe Tomorrow's" co-owner Gina Sullivan wasn't as pleased, “I'm devastated. Like I said it was our home and we had hopes and plans.”
Mullane added, "it is a terrible waste that someone would do such a thing. It was repairable. It is such a shame to see a nice sailboat get burned up like that.”
Sullivan continued, “we have nothing...this was our home...we were hoping to get something out of it, but it's gone.”
The boat, "Maybe Tomorrow," went up in flames over the weekend and the owner thinks someone set it on fire.
Fire officials are investigating the incident as a suspicious fire, adding that accidental and natural causes are ruled out.
The boat's owner, Michael Calabrese, told fire investigators he has two possible suspects in mind. Fire officials have not named any suspects.
The boat was stranded on the beach during Hurricane Irene on August 27 . Norfolk fire crews rescued Calabrese and his girlfriend, Gina Sullivan, from the boat during the storm.
Before the boat caught fire, the city ruled the sailboat a public nuisance.
As Norfolk Fire Marshal Investigators continue to investigate the boat fire, they have requested that anyone with pictures of the fire to contact them. They said they are looking for pictures early in the fire before fire units arrived.
Anyone with information is asked to contact Norfolk Fire Marshal Investigator Wooldridge at 664-6611 or the Crime Line at 1-888-LOCK-U-UP.
 
Jun 19, 2004
512
Catalina 387 Hull # 24 Port Charlotte, Florida
Many of us in the local marine community have followed this story carefully, from the poiint when we first found out that he tried to leave out of here under sail power with his engine not working.

The entire situation has been most unfortunate; however we all have had to question this captain (?) and his thoughts behind his choices and the outcomes of the entire situation. Even before the fire, after his arrest, we thought things didn't sound quite right.
 
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