Need to remove the pedestal to bring it home, sandblast and paint. Something's telling me that it's more difficult than removing the screws and pulling out. How is cable loosened? At Steering quadrant? Any advice? Thanks
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I didn't remove mine
I just took off the throttle and shift levers and used stripper. Once it was all clean I primed with zinc chromate and then painted with a spray can. I heat my spray cans in hot water first (Be careful when doing this). It now looks like it just came from the factory.
I just took off the throttle and shift levers and used stripper. Once it was all clean I primed with zinc chromate and then painted with a spray can. I heat my spray cans in hot water first (Be careful when doing this). It now looks like it just came from the factory.
Concur with Robert
If your ultimate goal is to paint the steering pedestal it is something that can be done without dissasembling and removing. If it is working well I suggest it be left alone. Remove the destroyer wheel, the engine control levers and the compass. Mask the pedestal guard and table if so equiped. Beware that the compass craddle is plastic. If properly done I bet you would not be able to tell the difference in the finished product but your labor cost and opportunity for problems would be a lot less.
If your ultimate goal is to paint the steering pedestal it is something that can be done without dissasembling and removing. If it is working well I suggest it be left alone. Remove the destroyer wheel, the engine control levers and the compass. Mask the pedestal guard and table if so equiped. Beware that the compass craddle is plastic. If properly done I bet you would not be able to tell the difference in the finished product but your labor cost and opportunity for problems would be a lot less.
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My pedestal also needs re-painting. The bottom section has the paint chipped off to expose the bare metal. I Googled zinc chromate and came up with Rust-Oleum primer (7400 system primers). Is that what you used? What did you paint the pedestal with after priming? Thanks, Ken
My pedestal also needs re-painting. The bottom section has the paint chipped off to expose the bare metal. I Googled zinc chromate and came up with Rust-Oleum primer (7400 system primers). Is that what you used? What did you paint the pedestal with after priming? Thanks, Ken
OK, maybe I'll leave it on to paint.....
I've heard the Preval paint sprayer works great for small jobs like this, and a friend has a small amount of polyurethane paint he has offered. Thanks for talking me out of removing the monster.
I've heard the Preval paint sprayer works great for small jobs like this, and a friend has a small amount of polyurethane paint he has offered. Thanks for talking me out of removing the monster.
What is a good method for painting the pedestal?
I've been following this post with great interest. My H31 pedestal is also badly chipped at the base and is in dire need of a paint job. It's been on my to-do list for a few years now. I agree with leaving it in place, but am unsure about how to refinish it. What paint to use, how to prep the bare metal, how to prep the remaining paint... etc. When I google how to paint aluminum I seem to get conflicting advise and a lot of it seems extreme (like having it dipped in some acid to etch it, then powdercoat it). Has anyone here actually done it successfully with common materials and tools? If so can you spell it out for us, includng how it has held up over time? Far too much of what I read claimed that unless these extreme type of treatments are done the paint will just begin chipping off again in a short time. Much appreciated
I've been following this post with great interest. My H31 pedestal is also badly chipped at the base and is in dire need of a paint job. It's been on my to-do list for a few years now. I agree with leaving it in place, but am unsure about how to refinish it. What paint to use, how to prep the bare metal, how to prep the remaining paint... etc. When I google how to paint aluminum I seem to get conflicting advise and a lot of it seems extreme (like having it dipped in some acid to etch it, then powdercoat it). Has anyone here actually done it successfully with common materials and tools? If so can you spell it out for us, includng how it has held up over time? Far too much of what I read claimed that unless these extreme type of treatments are done the paint will just begin chipping off again in a short time. Much appreciated
I'm right there with you Paul...
a job I've been putting off too long. Though not a paint expert, I think the polyurethane paint is a must in a marine environment. Not necessarily 2 part, but just 1 part poly paint. Any marine store will carry it. And to avoid hauling a compressor to the dock, the prevale sprayer will work great (according to friends who've used it). The job could probably be done on the boat and the guy who mentioned using paint stripper has got me thinking. I have a can of etching primer used on cars....will check to see if it's suitable for this job. Bet yours doesn't look as bad as mine.
a job I've been putting off too long. Though not a paint expert, I think the polyurethane paint is a must in a marine environment. Not necessarily 2 part, but just 1 part poly paint. Any marine store will carry it. And to avoid hauling a compressor to the dock, the prevale sprayer will work great (according to friends who've used it). The job could probably be done on the boat and the guy who mentioned using paint stripper has got me thinking. I have a can of etching primer used on cars....will check to see if it's suitable for this job. Bet yours doesn't look as bad as mine.
Aluminum Primer
Gary, you are right... mine is not as bad as yours. Anyway... I did more searching. Apparently the Rustoleum people have a primer made especially for aluminum. Check the link. I wish they had more information. http://www.rustoleum.com/product.asp?frm_product_id=29&SBL=1 What does everyone think?
Gary, you are right... mine is not as bad as yours. Anyway... I did more searching. Apparently the Rustoleum people have a primer made especially for aluminum. Check the link. I wish they had more information. http://www.rustoleum.com/product.asp?frm_product_id=29&SBL=1 What does everyone think?
Right from the horse's mouth.
I have also been thinking about this job for a couple years. I saved instructions from Edson that you can find by following the link below.
I have also been thinking about this job for a couple years. I saved instructions from Edson that you can find by following the link below.
Well, there you go....
Ken's link pretty much nails that issue.....thanks Ken. However, to the best of my knowledge, Edson is in the business of selling marine products other than paint. The instructions probably derived from a paint manufacturer....Maybe Interlux? I think a painting expert who has experience dealing with aluminum could give good advice as well. The Edson info is probably very accurate though, especially regarding the galvanic corrosion issue and stray currents. I have a friend who painted airplanes and boats as a profession for the Navy and . I think I'll follow his lead.
Ken's link pretty much nails that issue.....thanks Ken. However, to the best of my knowledge, Edson is in the business of selling marine products other than paint. The instructions probably derived from a paint manufacturer....Maybe Interlux? I think a painting expert who has experience dealing with aluminum could give good advice as well. The Edson info is probably very accurate though, especially regarding the galvanic corrosion issue and stray currents. I have a friend who painted airplanes and boats as a profession for the Navy and . I think I'll follow his lead.
Hay Gary
Just a note, there are now 2 Hunter 31 sections, you're posting in the new "Hunter 31" section. We are in the "Hunter 31 83 - 87"
Just a note, there are now 2 Hunter 31 sections, you're posting in the new "Hunter 31" section. We are in the "Hunter 31 83 - 87"
Aluminum Primer
Here is something I do know alittle bit about. West Marine has a product line of paints by Tempo. Tempo has a primer made just for this application. It is a Zinc Chromate. They use it as a primer for outdrives because there is a problem with galvanic action between the aluminum and the copper used in bottom paints. I have also used the zinc chromate a few years ago when I repainted the mast of a Catalina 27. I hope this answers some questions.
Here is something I do know alittle bit about. West Marine has a product line of paints by Tempo. Tempo has a primer made just for this application. It is a Zinc Chromate. They use it as a primer for outdrives because there is a problem with galvanic action between the aluminum and the copper used in bottom paints. I have also used the zinc chromate a few years ago when I repainted the mast of a Catalina 27. I hope this answers some questions.
Edson?
I was just at Strictly Sail Chicago and talked with one of the Edson reps about removing my pedestal. They had directions on how to remove and replace pedestals right there. They were very helpful about how it was put together and what to be careful of when removing it. It isn't that hard just time consuming. It turns out that my pedestal was made by Yacht Specialties. The directions are basicly the same but the parts are made different. some are plastic and cannot be replaced. That's the price we pay for buying an older boat. Someday.....
I was just at Strictly Sail Chicago and talked with one of the Edson reps about removing my pedestal. They had directions on how to remove and replace pedestals right there. They were very helpful about how it was put together and what to be careful of when removing it. It isn't that hard just time consuming. It turns out that my pedestal was made by Yacht Specialties. The directions are basicly the same but the parts are made different. some are plastic and cannot be replaced. That's the price we pay for buying an older boat. Someday.....
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