Who says size doesn't matter?

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Jun 9, 2004
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Hunter 40.5 Bayfield, WI
I have always been a gal who has said that when it comes to boats that size does matter and that the only ones who said differently were guys with teeny, tiny little...dinghies. Well, I take it all back and here is why. Fourteen feet of wet and wild fun!!! Captain Grumpy and I are spending a week in Key Largo at a friend's fabulous condo. This year it came complete with a Sunfish sailboat that the Captain has been itching to try. So yesterday we dragged it down to the water, hauled all the rigging down and actually got it put together with a minimum of fuss. Fortunately Captain Grumpy previous experience with Sunfish was a huge help. I have to admit, I was a little reticent. The bay the condo is on gets some protection from the Gulf winds because of some offshore atolls. Even so, the wind was 10-15 out of the NW and there were whitecaps, although the bay is fairly shallow. Anyway, we got in the water, the rig is up and Captain Grumpy hands me the mainsheet and tells me to get in. He walked us out a bit and then he jumped in. We scooted out of the launch area before I could say "stop, I want to get off!" As soon as we cleared the breakwater, we were in it and CG had me drop the centerboard and off we went. I handled the main sheet and CG worked the tiller and we were flying! In a very short time we were at the little atolls that are about 2 miles out from the shore we had just left. CG rounded up to the wind, I stepped off with the bow line and pulled us to shore. We tied off on some mangrove roots and then walked around in the warm shallow water. It was an amazing feeling looking to the west across the Gulf while standing in the middle of Florida Bay. It was a perfect day. Blue sky, turquoise colored water; the warm breeze-it was perfect. We took off our life jackets and set them on the rather inhospitable beach and we dug into our bag of treats. We had some fruit, snack bars and some water. I took off my wet shorts and tied them to a mangrove branch to dry out. We wandered along the shore,looking for shells and then we saw the sign. The sign telling us that landfall on any shore in the Florida Bay was VERBOTTEN. We packed our stuff and headed for the boat. At this time we were downwind of the condo and there was a bit of a current running. We decided we would take some tacks across the bay and work our way upwind before falling off to make landfall at the launch ramp. As we were trying to push off from shore, CG had hold of the bowline, I got in the boat and shifted my weight the wrong way just as the wind gusted, the boat went over and dumped me rather unceremoniously, into Florida Bay. It took a few minutes to get the boat righted because the Captain couldn't stop laughing. Anyway, no worse for the wear we manage to push off and in just seconds we are zooming back across the bay. We worked pretty hard at keeping the boat pointed high and now we were hitting the chop and were getting drenched pretty steadily. Or I should say I was getting drenched prettysteadily since the Captain, at the tiller, managed to stay a lot drier. It was magic for the next hour or so we sailed the bay. The boat took the upwind banging pretty good and the Captain and I soon learned how to shift our weight to help with powering through the one foot chop and to keep the boat moving fast. On our last tack, because we had worked our way so far upwind, we were able to fall off and ease the mainsail a bit. Now we were heeling and moving fast and it was magic. This is what you miss on a big boat. There is an elemental connectedness with the wind, the boat and the water that I have missed. Yes, I get this feeling on the big boats but this is the stripped down, unplugged version of that. We're flying along, Captain Grumpy works the tiller and I work the mainsheet and use my weight and we hardly have to think about it or talk about it,it's just happening without thought or effort. I can reach my hand down into the warm blue green waters and feel how the tiniest shift of my weight or the attitude of my body brings an immediate response from the boat. This is what I miss on my big boats, the boat talking back to me like this. The Captain plotted our course well and as we head back to the ramp we are on a reach as we pass the breakwater and CG tells me to haul the centerboard and get ready to step off. About this time I notice there are at least a half dozen people on the beach watching us come in. I say a prayer that we don't give them too good of a show. As I raise the centerboard, the Captain heads up, the boat slows, the sail stalls and we drift perfectly to the ramp. I calmly step out (like I've done this a million times), take the bow line and pull us into shore. It was perfect.
 
Dec 5, 2004
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Glander Tavana Mexico Beach, Florida
Shakedown cruise

Sounds like a great day for you. We, too, had a good one yesterday. Some friends wanted us along for the maiden voyage of their "new" to them Hunter 30. First time with the sails up. Started out with light winds in the 5 - 10 kt catagory, but by early afternoon we were in 20kt sustained windsand clipping along at 6.5 kts! What a great time! Until, that is, the block for the 150 genoa gave way with a loud bang! We all thought the mast was comming down! We quickly furled the jib and replaced the block and were back on our way in 5 minutes. All in all, it was a great shakedown cruise. Sundowners in the marina that afternoon were especially tastey!
 
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tom

Dinghy Sailing is the Best

It's hard to beat a Laser with 15 knots of wind. You can stay on plane all of the time. A windsurfer is more of a thrill but you have to stand all of the time. Sunfish are great(my first sailboat) but the Laser is faster especially into the wind. I used to sail off the beach at Myrtle Beach ,SC and go up and down the beach for hours. But it is hard to take anything with you and as you said a moments lapse and you are swimming. With a windsurfer you can go even faster than a Laser. At higher wind speeds it is more like flying the sail than sailing the board. But even with a wetsuit it is cold in early fall and late spring. As soon as the water warms up I am going to dust off the windsurfer in my garage. It is exciting to sail my Pearson 323 at hull speed (7kts) but my old laser could easily go 15 kts or more. I think that I had my windsurfer over 20 kts a few times. It was so much exercise to sail really fast on the windsurfer I'd be exhausted after and hour or so of sailing.
 
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oldiesrocker

As in all things....

As in ALL things, Skill is still more important than size. As I've told my music students for decades:"no need to replace talent with hardware". Of course, I started in a small Snark sailboat. Little more than a styrofoam bathtub with a mast. Due to the design and shape, any mediocre sunfish pilot could zip past a pretty good snark pilot. I often miss the old "snarkasaurous" as we called it for the complete feeling of judging wind and current right on top of the water. I didn't miss it though, when we took our modest V21 out to one of the Keys and anchored for lunch in the middle of the day...
 
Mar 18, 2006
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Catalina 25 Standard/Fin Keel Grand Lake, OK
I haven't found .....

So far, I haven't found any water born vehicle that I really don't like. Even tubing down a fast running stream in my home state of Colorado can be a blast. I have had my own kayak, my father had a cabin cruiser, my sister inlaw one of those big ones you are talking about, and we have a Catalina 25..for now. I guess I just enjoy being around the water. Maybe growing up around the mountains makes me wish for the sea and beaches when I want to relax. Mountains for me are for skiing, climbing and backpacking.
 
Jun 14, 2004
79
Ericson 29 Biddeford, ME
Boats, all of them

It reminds me of one of the best quotes from Wind in the Willows. "There is nothing, absolutely nothing, half as much worth doing as simply messing around in boats". Like others here I love the water and all of the sorts of craft that travel on water. I have a 29 foot sailboat that I adore for its ability to take me on the ocean in comfort and for good distances. I also have a little Snark sailboat that is just so much fun on the lake. As you explained so well it is such a more intimate way of sailing, everything you do has an immediate response. Last summer we had the Snark out in a fresh breeze and we flipped it. A lot of fun even getting dumped; can't do that on the big one. Every different style of boat has advantages and disadvantages. There is no one perfect all around boat. For that reason I have 5 boats now and will likely add more. Canoe, Kayak, Hobie 16, Snark and Ericson 29. Will likely add more as we are looking for a 2 person Kayak. Going to have to open my own marina. Have Fun
 

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May 27, 2004
3,626
Caliber 40 Long Range Cruiser Portland, Maine
Not Bad Tim

How about 9 not counting the inflatible. 1985 35' Ericson 1987 19' Glastron(family boat)for sale 1955 18' Rhodes(replaced the Hobie 16)for sale 1968 12' Rowboat 1963 10' Cape Dory(sailing tender) 12' Kayak(looking for a 2 man also) 12' Canoe 11' Alpha 180 windsurfer 10' Klepper windsurfer(low displacement sinker) I too love all boats and have since I can remember. Spent summers on a lake as a kid and just cannot shake the love of all thinks that go in the water. Learned to sail very young on a Mirror that my pop and I built from a kit. I will sail all day to an anchorage and drop the hook, rig the CD 10 and go for a sail. My wife just laughs. Tim R.
 
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Fred

For the two folks looking for a 2 person

kayak; Some friends (experienced boaters) bought a Westmarine 2 person inflatable kayak for a car trip to Mexico. They disn't expect much, just something to get out on the water. It has turned into their favorite boat. They keep it in the car all the time now, and use it a couple of times a week. It tracks well and moves pretty fast. Cheap too. I'm not a big fan of West Marine, but I would reccomend the kayak.
 
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tom

Never paddle a two person kayak

Buy two kayaks!!!! My wife really didn't like canoeing and would often sandbag when we were paddling. Then we bought two sea kayaks. She loves it!!!! Now she can't sandbag and she doesn't have to be any closer to me than she wants to be. It makes kayaking a totally different experience in two boats. If I want to go on one side of an island and she wants the other that is what we do. If I want to stop and flyfish and she wants to bird watch that is what we do. We stay in visual contact and also have a couple of handheld radios. But life is much better with two kayaks.
 

Tim R.

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May 27, 2004
3,626
Caliber 40 Long Range Cruiser Portland, Maine
Divorce machines

Tandem bikes and Kayaks. I should have phrased it properly. The Kayak I am looking for is 1 "Boat Babe" and 1 dog. I will be sailing my CD 10 while she and the pup paddle off exploring! Tim R.
 
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tom

Tim you have me Beat

Right now we have two 17' sea kayaks, a 11.5 foot kayak , 17' square stern canoe with motor, 8' Walker bay with motor, windsurfer and a 32' Pearson sailboat. I'm going to show your list to the wife and maybe she will let me buy a new Laser. Sailing is my first love on the water. Kayaking is a distant second love with seakayaking and river kayaking being roughly equal. The canoe is for my third love on the water fishing. But underwater is good(except in a boat) for scuba or snorkle. Life is better on or in the water. Even taking the fly rod and wading up a creek flyfishing is fun. Hopefully when I'm too old to sail I can own a houseboat. Of course then I'd have to bring along the kayaks. Princessofthelake my wife and I stayed in the keys a long time ago and went sailing on a Sunfish provided by the hotel. It was great. We have also chartered in the keys twice and both times were great. We have also made a couple of scuba diving trips to the keys,they were great. Did I mention that we think that the keys are great??
 
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AXEL

I miss small sailboats

I have also had a soft spot for the small sailboats. I learned how to sail on a 14 foot something without an engine in the Great South Bay of Long Island. As soon as I got the sail up I headed across the bay to the quiet shallow waters and small islands. I loved the quietness, the lack of traffic, the ability to just beach the boat and walk ashore. When ever I go to boat shows these days I seem to be attracted to those small boats. On our honeymoon my wife and I won an informal sunfish competition at Sandals in Jamaica. I have a feeling you will also find yourself eyeballing those small boats remembering your special time in the Gulf.
 
Jul 1, 1998
3,062
Hunter Legend 35 Poulsbo/Semiahmoo WA
That's a Great Story Pricess!

That's a great story, Princess, and I agree with you about being close to the water. In fact, we still have our first boat, a 16-ft Falcon daysailor, for that very reason. The Falcon had a large cockpit with stowage under the seats and a cudy forward which one person could duck under to get out of the spray or stow stuff under. This boat was from our early 20s and we sailed all over the place on her and even camped out on board. Sailed all over Narragansett Bay, including a few trips way into fall when everybody else had their boats out of the water, snaking up in shallow estuaries looking at the fall colors under sometimes a bright deep blue sky with a cold nip in the wind. With a swing-up centerboard and swing-up rudder we could go in about 6 to 8 inches of water, something regular boats couldn't. We sailed some of the mountain lakes in the Sierras, including Lake Tahoe. That brings back memories. On one PG&E lake, Lake Spaulding, a lake with a granite shoreline because it was damed for power, we sailed around a point and lost our wind and became becalmed. This was back in the hippie days and there was a couple sunbathing on a rock right where the wind died! Ooops. Yea, we waved at them and they waved back. Thanks to being a trailerable boat, we Sailed San Francisco Bay and out the Golden Gate (16 footer!) and down the coast toward Santa Cruz. Oh, guess this isn't supposed to be a "blue water boat"! Didn't know that then - was still young! Oh, almost forgot, nearly got divorced thanks to her, too. Placed 4th in the Nationals and 1st at the E. Greenwich Wednesday night series - maybe it's not a good idea to have your wife crew in races. We still have her - just can't sell all those memories. The trailer is a bit rusty now (and we're slowly getting there too), the plywood mahogany seats are sitting in the garage waiting to be refinished, and she is sitting under a blue tarp which gets renewed about every three years as the UV damage takes it's toll. The plan is to, one of these days, fix her up and do some more trailer sailing. In the mean time we're still too busy making trips up the coast to Canada and Alaska in our coastal cruiser but I think of her often (maybe I should be careful what I say?). Thanks for sharing your story. It was really appreciated.
 
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Bob

Can someone tell me please

How do you enlarge the photos on the left hand side. The one above of princessofthelake in the pink bikini would be nice a "little" larger.
 
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Anchor Down

The Closest You'll Get

Is her other pic on the "Boat Babe on Strike!" thread:
 
Jun 9, 2004
963
Hunter 40.5 Bayfield, WI
Thanks and here's a video to prove it!

When I posted this a few days ago I only did it because I knew that the folks hanging around here would appreciate the experience. I did not expect such great comments. I had a wonderful time reading what everyone had to say. Is this a great board or what?? Anyway, here is a link to a video I did on one of our trips around Florida Bay Tuesday afternoon. I did this with my little Canon digital camera and I kept it short because we were heading up wind, I was getting splashed and I was afraid I'd drop the camera or get dumpled. But I think it's pretty cool footage. BTW, thanks for the compliment, Bob!
 
Oct 14, 2005
2,191
1983 Hunter H34 North East, MD
Nice balance job, Princess...

sailed Sunfish for years--you kept it flat in a fair breeze! Don't take anything aboard one of them that you can't afford to get soaked, dumped, or lost! Done all three!
 
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tom

Looks Like a Sailfish

Just looking at the bow it looks like a sailfish instead of a sunfish. Almost the same boats.
 
Oct 14, 2005
2,191
1983 Hunter H34 North East, MD
Tom...

still think it's a Sunfish. Check the wave deflector on the deck behind the mast. I don't think the Sailfish had them.
 
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