Who all has a website about their boat?

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Sep 25, 2008
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Yes, Jeannette is something else isn't she? She does trade show modeling and product promotions. You can link to her myspace page which links to her 'real' website from our boats website. Well...you can link to it if you can open our boat page. lol
She said she was going to make a real page for the boat. She just ask me to look at everyone else's and pick a web hosting site.
Then I will resubmit my application to sailing and such, with some references this time.
 
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Sep 25, 2008
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Promoting a website on someone elses web site.

I took a look at your site. I see you are just starting out. I got to thinking about it and I don't want to be a ***** about it but it seems you are dangerously close to poaching on sailboatowners.com territory. This site is a business as well as a free forum. Which the free forum in turn feeds the business.
You also offer a boats for sale section which really makes you a direct competitor, except I didn't see anything for sale so maybe not exactly....yet.
No disrespect to you but it seems a little underhanded, well I guess that was a little disrespectful. Anyway I am a business owner so I guess maybe I am too sensitive about it.
 
Aug 2, 2005
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pearson ariel grand rapids
I took a look at your site. I see you are just starting out. I got to thinking about it and I don't want to be a ***** about it but it seems you are dangerously close to poaching on sailboatowners.com territory. This site is a business as well as a free forum. Which the free forum in turn feeds the business.
You also offer a boats for sale section which really makes you a direct competitor, except I didn't see anything for sale so maybe not exactly....yet.
No disrespect to you but it seems a little underhanded, well I guess that was a little disrespectful. Anyway I am a business owner so I guess maybe I am too sensitive about it.

Don't think that's an issue, I first found sailboatowners by following a link from another website, ( a direct competitor with store board etc) so if they have a problem with someone listing a website here they should take steps to eliminate any other website from refering to them.

If you browse the boats for sale boards you'll notice that they are used boats for sale by owner, a great deal of those boats are listed on many different sites. Sailboatowners realy has no stake in that other than as a place to concentrate people with similar interests, the fee here is $19.95 for 60 days (a good deal I'd say) and no where have I found that states they require exclusive rights for the listing.

Sailboatowners (to my knowledge) has never edited a post that referred people to a competitor. The closest I've seen is a while ago someone was discussing the purchase of something from WM, and one of the admins or mods made a post saying they had the same product in the store here. In my mind that's a much better means of swaying purchasers than censoring mention of competitors.

Ken.

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would be nice if he mentioned sailboatowners on his links page though!
 
Sep 25, 2008
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I was unaware of the non-exsclusive nature of the listing. I thougt sailboatowners was charging a percentage like a broker upon the sale. Sailboat owners is really advertising not listing as an agent.
I like the sailing and such website, I think it's a good idea. I was kind of leary about listing my websites for the products I sell even though they aren't sailing related. I thought it would be improper etiquet.
And like you said if there was a problem somebody would say something. Right?
So rock on sailing Nsuch.
 

tcbro

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Jun 3, 2004
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You need to talk to....

Fred Ficarra. He has an excellent website covering the complete rebuild of his mid-80's Hunter 34, Epitome. He used to link to it on all of his posts. I have the link in my "favorites" but I think you should get it (and permission to use it) from him. He's on here regularly.

EDIT: I just tried my link and came up with a "File not found" message. Maybe he took his site down. Too bad, it was very detailed with lots of pictures.

tcb
 
Feb 6, 1998
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Canadian Sailcraft 36T Casco Bay, ME
Don't think that's an issue, I first found sailboatowners by following a link from another website, ( a direct competitor with store board etc) so if they have a problem with someone listing a website here they should take steps to eliminate any other website from refering to them.

There is a difference between hyperlinking to something and advertising. The original post is technically on the border of what we consider legit and as of now we have laid back and let the thread roll. So far it seems like a good thing for the community but if it turns into a regular barrage of "click to my site", "click to my site" it may be a different story. There are currently a fair number of "click through" ads including Rib Craft & JSI Sails and Canvas on this site. Please keep in mind that Phil also sells canvas..!

If this was a honest to goodness DIY boat owner site, where no income was derived or attempted, like many are on this site, it would be considered 110% legit. Where the OP's site tends to cross the line is in the "click through" advertising. Click though ads derive revenue based on clicks to a web page that were routed from another page. The intent, as I see it of the op, is genuinely two fold. #1 build a site of links for sailors and DIY pages (good) #2 Sell advertising to other sites and collect "click through" revenue by traffic driven to his site.

This is NOT the only forum he has posted this on and it could certainly be interpreted as advertising to drive "clicks" his way. This and many other forums have rules that do not allow commercial advertising, selling of goods, or phishing for business.

The inherent difference between a forum member recommending another vendor such as Hamilton Marine, Defender or McMaster Carr, in a post, and linking to, it is 100% different than said vendor coming onto the forum and doing the same. The vendor is a direct beneficiary and the forum member is NOT.

As I mentioned above the admin is taking a "wait and see" approach and always take each event as a case by case basis.

Please do know that business owners, vendors, surveyors, brokers or anyone else who specifically derives revenue from a business is specifically not allowed to market it, advertise it or solicit any sort of business through the use of the SBO forums.

Also selling or even mentioning you have items for sale, in the forums, is one of this sites biggest pet peeves. These post, above most all others, will be deleted as soon as they are found so please don't do it. There is a free Gear Ads (LINK) section and a very, very, very reasonably priced Boats For Sale (LINK) section.

All cases are not cut and dry, and this one falls into that category. Rather than be hasty with the delete feature, we try to avoid it at all costs, the admins have chosen to monitor this one instead for the time being.

Hope this info helps..
 
Jan 22, 2008
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Catalina C-27 Providence, RI
Sailboat Web Site

I just started putting together a site with pictures of a few of the boats that I've refitted over the years. My current boat is a 1984 Catalina C-27. I just started the refit process and I should have a great story by next spring.

Some of the other boats on the site are a 1983 Oday 23, 1972 Classic Century Raven-17 Speed Boat and a 1968 Fish-N-Ski Run-about.

Take a peak for yourself, I hope you enjoy.:dance:

http://baysailorbill.spaces.live.com/

BILL
 

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TimCup

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Jan 30, 2008
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Maine Sail- thanks for the explanation...

I've always wondered how income was generated on these sites that refer (click thru) to other websites. It's all beginning to make sense...

And, with this new info, I've got to say, what I believed was an honest, altruistic attempt to bring like minded people together now seems much less so.

my computer at home is now a solid mass of slow because of ads that clogged it up telling me I needed more security. Forced to buy (couldn't get them out!), I paid and it was worse.:cussing::cussing:

I tell you all this because ANY site that pretends to be something it is not is, IMHO, misleading, disingenuous and disgusting. Inviting people to your website in the hope that they will click on another site for your enrichment? No better than a charity event where you keep the proceeds.

I'll get off my soapbox in a moment. If this isn't the intent, I'd invite you to delete the clickthru's from your site. If not, I invite the moderators to delete yours. Okay, I'm done sugarcoating my feelings.

cup
 
Mar 28, 2007
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Oday 23 Anna Maria Isl.
I am with Tim Cup on this issue.

SBO provides a lot to us all and asks very little in return. Now would be the time to make it clear that this is not the place to promote similar income producing sites. Also, I personally think SBO has done a good job of keeping product pricing at a reasonable level and a little loyalty from us wouldn't hurt.
 
Oct 29, 2008
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Montgomery 17 Dothan, Al
Well, it looks like this thread became much more than I expected it too. I did not create it to get visitors to my website. I created the thread to get links to other peoples websites so that I could then post them on mine.

I know it could seem like I was just trying to get traffic to my website but that is not case. I never would have thought that starting this thread would have created as much "talk" as it has. I am sorry if you thought that I was abusing the forum in any way. My website isn't there to make money, by no means. Although, the few cents that it MIGHT bring in each day will go to pay for the cost of the hosting service.

Like Maine said, this isn't the only forum I have posted this topic on. I have posted it on..... three different forums I believe. I dont want people to think that I was trying to spam by submitting to three different forums. I didn't submit them all at the same time. They were spread out over a few days. The reason I posted on different threads is because I wanted to find as many people who had a website about their boat. So I figured why not try different threads.

I do not see SBO and Sailing and Such being competing websites at all.

I think I already have Fred's website listed, its a pretty good one, he really took alot of pictures which are very helpful.

Wow, this post doesn't flow at all......
 

Tim R.

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I have been trying to find the time to get some of my info loaded. I worked on it a lot last weekend uploading photos and adding dialogue. Click the link bleow to get to the site and navigate to Cordelia/projects. The only ones complete right now are the mast repaint and transmission refit.
 
Sep 25, 2008
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I am glad you have a website that is a business. I like looking at your site. Gorilla marketing is fine, but some things become questionable. You say the thread isn't flowing, what you mean is it's not flowing like you want it to. My comments may have been a little harsh before. Maybe this can be a symbiotic relationship for sbo and sailing and such.
Timcup, if you wnat people to do the right thing just becuase it's the right thing you have to go live in a communist country.(but I hear that theory isn't working too well) In capitalism, it works best when people are rewarded for doing the right thing. The fact that he's started a website for profit doesn't bother me at all. We are chatting on a website for profit.
 
Sep 25, 2008
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Sequitar, I read your website. It reminds me that my first dream is to build a multi-million dollar company and my second is to sail off the edge of the earth.
It appears you have found a woman to share your dream with you. None of it is worth anything with out someone to share it with. I'd burn both my dreams to the waterline and work a job in a factory to spend my life with my wife if I had to.
I am very sorry about your little companion though. That her time is near. Sounds like she has had an adventurous life and what else could any of us ask for.
 

TimCup

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Jan 30, 2008
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Hermit Scott, I'm not sure I quite understand...

what you meant by your comments, but I'll clarify mine:

Get 3 free credit reports (except they need your credit card number for the "processing fee".

$500 shopping spree at Wal-Mart Free! (have you looked at what you need to do for that?!?!).

And on and on and on...

I know I'm tilting at windmills, and wasting my time, but anytime I sense an ulterior motive disguised as some good deed, my panties get in a wad. At least here, on this website, I am heard. I feel better.

I've read everything you've ever posted, and I respect your input and appreciate your insights. No dishonor intended. And I'll take sailing and such at his word, although I still think it's wrong.

cup
 
Sep 25, 2008
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Those things can be very, very frustrating. Some websites can only exist if they have those things on there, especially if they sell nothing. If you want a good quality site, you need someone that is getting paid for it.
I think I read something about sailingandsuch doing this just for the betterment of mankind(or something like that). But I have to believe that some where in his heart he wishes to get 1,000,000 hits a day and Wal-Mart paying him $50,000 a year for advertising. I hope that happens for him, so he can work full time on making sailing nsuch the most entertaining web site available so I go there all the time. All I am saying is it's real tough to do a good website without money even with the best of intentions, just like it's real tough to do church with out money. I use church as an example just to say that there are people donig these things with the best of intentions, things like 'free' informative/entertaining websites and chuch but they don't get very far with out resources.
 
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