This past season was my first owning a sailboat. I have learned so many different things. I spend much of my time single handling the boat. As a result, I have decided that the first and best improvement for next year is going to be roller furling. I have looked into two specific systems. The first is CDI FFII and the second is the Schaefer snap on system (model 500). I am trying to avoid any modification with the forestay. I also have to work around my anchor locker. From the information that is available on the net, the Schaefer is attached to the current system. No mods are needed. The CDI seems to need some type of modification to be placed above and outside of the anchor locker. If some one can offer their experience with either system or something comparable, that would be great.
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This past season was my first owning a sailboat. I have learned so many different things. I spend much of my time single handling the boat. As a result, I have decided that the first and best improvement for next year is going to be roller furling. I have looked into two specific systems. The first is CDI FFII and the second is the Schaefer snap on system (model 500). I am trying to avoid any modification with the forestay. I also have to work around my anchor locker. From the information that is available on the net, the Schaefer is attached to the current system. No mods are needed. The CDI seems to need some type of modification to be placed above and outside of the anchor locker. If some one can offer their experience with either system or something comparable, that would be great.
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Ed
Should be pretty easy
I have installed the CDI unit you're considering. Having no experience with the Schaefer unit, I can't comment on it. The CDI went on very easily without any modification to the existing forestay. At best, my mechanical ability is average, but with the help of a similar helper, we had the job done in less than a couple of hours. Your setup on the 23 might be a little different, but it still should be pretty straight forward. I'd recommend the ballbearing upgrade for the CDI. Good luck. It will add to your enjoyment. (I'll bet this site or one of CDI's vendors can help you line up the shot too.) -Ed
I have installed the CDI unit you're considering. Having no experience with the Schaefer unit, I can't comment on it. The CDI went on very easily without any modification to the existing forestay. At best, my mechanical ability is average, but with the help of a similar helper, we had the job done in less than a couple of hours. Your setup on the 23 might be a little different, but it still should be pretty straight forward. I'd recommend the ballbearing upgrade for the CDI. Good luck. It will add to your enjoyment. (I'll bet this site or one of CDI's vendors can help you line up the shot too.) -Ed
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Should be pretty easy
I have installed the CDI unit you're considering. Having no experience with the Schaefer unit, I can't comment on it. The CDI went on very easily without any modification to the existing forestay. At best, my mechanical ability is average, but with the help of a similar helper, we had the job done in less than a couple of hours. Your setup on the 23 might be a little different, but it still should be pretty straight forward. I'd recommend the ballbearing upgrade for the CDI. Good luck. It will add to your enjoyment. (I'll bet this site or one of CDI's vendors can help you line up the shot too.) -Ed
I have installed the CDI unit you're considering. Having no experience with the Schaefer unit, I can't comment on it. The CDI went on very easily without any modification to the existing forestay. At best, my mechanical ability is average, but with the help of a similar helper, we had the job done in less than a couple of hours. Your setup on the 23 might be a little different, but it still should be pretty straight forward. I'd recommend the ballbearing upgrade for the CDI. Good luck. It will add to your enjoyment. (I'll bet this site or one of CDI's vendors can help you line up the shot too.) -Ed
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bill
roller furling...
Thanks for the advice. For either system, I a going to have to make a modification. I just uncertain which to modify; the headstay or the doors to the anchor locker. I would rather attempt to modify the doors. I will fopefully be able to locate some one who may have had a silimlar idea.
Thanks for the advice. For either system, I a going to have to make a modification. I just uncertain which to modify; the headstay or the doors to the anchor locker. I would rather attempt to modify the doors. I will fopefully be able to locate some one who may have had a silimlar idea.
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bill
roller furling...
Thanks for the advice. For either system, I a going to have to make a modification. I just uncertain which to modify; the headstay or the doors to the anchor locker. I would rather attempt to modify the doors. I will fopefully be able to locate some one who may have had a silimlar idea.
Thanks for the advice. For either system, I a going to have to make a modification. I just uncertain which to modify; the headstay or the doors to the anchor locker. I would rather attempt to modify the doors. I will fopefully be able to locate some one who may have had a silimlar idea.
Prefer hanks, but...
I found this pic in the H23 user section (See link) http://www.sailboatowners.com/album/display.tpl?id=73186766419&fno=0 There are a few others you might find interesting, too. For larger boats with bigger sails, I think that roller furling is the way to go. For smaller, trailerable boats, I prefer a hank on sail. I have a H260 with 100% jib and don't bother with a roller furler. I do have a simple downhaul that consists of a light block that is tied to the forestay turnbuckle that guides a line from the end of the jib halyard (at the head of the sail) back to the cockpit. This allows me to pull down the jib and tie it off without going forward. Between that and the jib sheets, I can control the sail and keep it on deck when it is dropped. On my previous boat, A 1990 MacGregor 26, I had a CD roller furler and 135% Genoa. It made sail handling more convenient, but trailering was a little more difficult. I installed the furler myself and it was a pretty easy job. You may need a different attachment for the stay to mast connection. On my MAC26, I had to change that. The CD furler comes with all the instructions about what is needed. A roller furled sail is in the sun and weather all season. A jib that is stored below or bagged in place will hold up longer. Also, if you want to change sails (I have a big light drifter for light air) it is easy enough to swap and you get optimum performance with the right sail for the conditions. A roller furled sail really is a compromise when you start rolling it in. Fair winds, Tom
I found this pic in the H23 user section (See link) http://www.sailboatowners.com/album/display.tpl?id=73186766419&fno=0 There are a few others you might find interesting, too. For larger boats with bigger sails, I think that roller furling is the way to go. For smaller, trailerable boats, I prefer a hank on sail. I have a H260 with 100% jib and don't bother with a roller furler. I do have a simple downhaul that consists of a light block that is tied to the forestay turnbuckle that guides a line from the end of the jib halyard (at the head of the sail) back to the cockpit. This allows me to pull down the jib and tie it off without going forward. Between that and the jib sheets, I can control the sail and keep it on deck when it is dropped. On my previous boat, A 1990 MacGregor 26, I had a CD roller furler and 135% Genoa. It made sail handling more convenient, but trailering was a little more difficult. I installed the furler myself and it was a pretty easy job. You may need a different attachment for the stay to mast connection. On my MAC26, I had to change that. The CD furler comes with all the instructions about what is needed. A roller furled sail is in the sun and weather all season. A jib that is stored below or bagged in place will hold up longer. Also, if you want to change sails (I have a big light drifter for light air) it is easy enough to swap and you get optimum performance with the right sail for the conditions. A roller furled sail really is a compromise when you start rolling it in. Fair winds, Tom
Prefer hanks, but...
I found this pic in the H23 user section (See link) http://www.sailboatowners.com/album/display.tpl?id=73186766419&fno=0 There are a few others you might find interesting, too. For larger boats with bigger sails, I think that roller furling is the way to go. For smaller, trailerable boats, I prefer a hank on sail. I have a H260 with 100% jib and don't bother with a roller furler. I do have a simple downhaul that consists of a light block that is tied to the forestay turnbuckle that guides a line from the end of the jib halyard (at the head of the sail) back to the cockpit. This allows me to pull down the jib and tie it off without going forward. Between that and the jib sheets, I can control the sail and keep it on deck when it is dropped. On my previous boat, A 1990 MacGregor 26, I had a CD roller furler and 135% Genoa. It made sail handling more convenient, but trailering was a little more difficult. I installed the furler myself and it was a pretty easy job. You may need a different attachment for the stay to mast connection. On my MAC26, I had to change that. The CD furler comes with all the instructions about what is needed. A roller furled sail is in the sun and weather all season. A jib that is stored below or bagged in place will hold up longer. Also, if you want to change sails (I have a big light drifter for light air) it is easy enough to swap and you get optimum performance with the right sail for the conditions. A roller furled sail really is a compromise when you start rolling it in. Fair winds, Tom
I found this pic in the H23 user section (See link) http://www.sailboatowners.com/album/display.tpl?id=73186766419&fno=0 There are a few others you might find interesting, too. For larger boats with bigger sails, I think that roller furling is the way to go. For smaller, trailerable boats, I prefer a hank on sail. I have a H260 with 100% jib and don't bother with a roller furler. I do have a simple downhaul that consists of a light block that is tied to the forestay turnbuckle that guides a line from the end of the jib halyard (at the head of the sail) back to the cockpit. This allows me to pull down the jib and tie it off without going forward. Between that and the jib sheets, I can control the sail and keep it on deck when it is dropped. On my previous boat, A 1990 MacGregor 26, I had a CD roller furler and 135% Genoa. It made sail handling more convenient, but trailering was a little more difficult. I installed the furler myself and it was a pretty easy job. You may need a different attachment for the stay to mast connection. On my MAC26, I had to change that. The CD furler comes with all the instructions about what is needed. A roller furled sail is in the sun and weather all season. A jib that is stored below or bagged in place will hold up longer. Also, if you want to change sails (I have a big light drifter for light air) it is easy enough to swap and you get optimum performance with the right sail for the conditions. A roller furled sail really is a compromise when you start rolling it in. Fair winds, Tom
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Marc_B
Photos of locker mod in the archives
John Schaub posted some photos of his mods to the anchor locker doors on his H23 for a furler. You might want to check the the archives and member directory and contact him. Looked like he did an excellent job. Regards, Marc_B
John Schaub posted some photos of his mods to the anchor locker doors on his H23 for a furler. You might want to check the the archives and member directory and contact him. Looked like he did an excellent job. Regards, Marc_B
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Marc_B
Photos of locker mod in the archives
John Schaub posted some photos of his mods to the anchor locker doors on his H23 for a furler. You might want to check the the archives and member directory and contact him. Looked like he did an excellent job. Regards, Marc_B
John Schaub posted some photos of his mods to the anchor locker doors on his H23 for a furler. You might want to check the the archives and member directory and contact him. Looked like he did an excellent job. Regards, Marc_B
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Furler on a h23 not h23.5
There is a big differance between the two boats although people seem to comment on them as if they are the same. If you have a h23 you can NOT put a furler on that boat with out shortening the forstay or modifying the anchor locker doors, period. Sorry Ed. I got lazy and never put my door modification on the archives, maybe a good winter day project. If you want to see some pictures and some advice on that subject let me know and I will e-mail some photos to you.
There is a big differance between the two boats although people seem to comment on them as if they are the same. If you have a h23 you can NOT put a furler on that boat with out shortening the forstay or modifying the anchor locker doors, period. Sorry Ed. I got lazy and never put my door modification on the archives, maybe a good winter day project. If you want to see some pictures and some advice on that subject let me know and I will e-mail some photos to you.
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