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Not a good choice
It makes enough noise to wake the dead, draws a whopping 26 amps/flush--compared to only 16 for most other electric macerating toilets--and chokes on flushes that other macerating toilets swallow easily. If you want the convenience of push-button flush, there are much better choices for the same or even less $$. I suggest you check out the Raritan SeaEra http://www.raritaneng.com/products/toilets/electric/sea_era.html . It's a much quieter, less power hungry, and far more durable toilet, and is available as either the complete toilet or a 'conversion'--which is actually everything but the bowl, seat and lid...also available in both sea water and pressurized flush water versions. A number of people here have 'em and love 'em. These folks have the best prices...and also probly have the best price for the Jabsco conversion if I haven't succeeded in talking you out of it.
It makes enough noise to wake the dead, draws a whopping 26 amps/flush--compared to only 16 for most other electric macerating toilets--and chokes on flushes that other macerating toilets swallow easily. If you want the convenience of push-button flush, there are much better choices for the same or even less $$. I suggest you check out the Raritan SeaEra http://www.raritaneng.com/products/toilets/electric/sea_era.html . It's a much quieter, less power hungry, and far more durable toilet, and is available as either the complete toilet or a 'conversion'--which is actually everything but the bowl, seat and lid...also available in both sea water and pressurized flush water versions. A number of people here have 'em and love 'em. These folks have the best prices...and also probly have the best price for the Jabsco conversion if I haven't succeeded in talking you out of it.
Electric Jabsco
Peggie is oh so right again. (surprise, surprise). My boat came with the electric pump, and I'm embarassed to flush when I have to go below and use the facilities. There is nothing discrete or subtle about the flush. Most of the neighbors will know what you've been up to. And in the middle of the night? I tell my kids to wait until the morning to flush. I'm patiently neglecting mine until it dies and I can replace it with a Raritan. T J
Peggie is oh so right again. (surprise, surprise). My boat came with the electric pump, and I'm embarassed to flush when I have to go below and use the facilities. There is nothing discrete or subtle about the flush. Most of the neighbors will know what you've been up to. And in the middle of the night? I tell my kids to wait until the morning to flush. I'm patiently neglecting mine until it dies and I can replace it with a Raritan. T J
OK , you got me thinking
It looks as though I can save approx $200 if I just get the Raritan conversion. Is there an advantage in getting a whole new toilet? I sail in fresh water. I do have a pressurized water system. Should I get a raw water or fresh water toilet. Thanks again.
It looks as though I can save approx $200 if I just get the Raritan conversion. Is there an advantage in getting a whole new toilet? I sail in fresh water. I do have a pressurized water system. Should I get a raw water or fresh water toilet. Thanks again.
Advantages to pressurized flush water toilets
Eliminating sea water odors issues is the reason most people opt for pressurized flush water toilets...but there are definite advantages for those in fresh water too: They're VERY quiet. Contrary to what most people think, it's not the discharge pump and macerator that makes all the noise, it the intake pump. So while some raw water electric toilets are quieter than others, they're all considerably noisier than pressurized flush waters toilets, which are actually quieter than most household toilets. They use only about 60% of the power needed by their sea water versions--a 10 amp draw vs. 16 for most raw water toilets. They only use about 2/3 the flush water needed by raw water toilets, which can really make a difference in the number of flushes your tank can hold. But...you need to make sure you carry enough water to have enough to spare for toilet flushing...if it's tight, you may be better off going with the raw water version. And they cost a bit less than the raw water version. If your bowl, seat and lid are in good shape, there is no advantage in buying the complete toilet instead of the 'conversion...'cuz the only things you won't get are the bowl seat and lid. And you'll save quite a bit in shipping charges by buying the conversion, 'cuz bowls are heavy!
Eliminating sea water odors issues is the reason most people opt for pressurized flush water toilets...but there are definite advantages for those in fresh water too: They're VERY quiet. Contrary to what most people think, it's not the discharge pump and macerator that makes all the noise, it the intake pump. So while some raw water electric toilets are quieter than others, they're all considerably noisier than pressurized flush waters toilets, which are actually quieter than most household toilets. They use only about 60% of the power needed by their sea water versions--a 10 amp draw vs. 16 for most raw water toilets. They only use about 2/3 the flush water needed by raw water toilets, which can really make a difference in the number of flushes your tank can hold. But...you need to make sure you carry enough water to have enough to spare for toilet flushing...if it's tight, you may be better off going with the raw water version. And they cost a bit less than the raw water version. If your bowl, seat and lid are in good shape, there is no advantage in buying the complete toilet instead of the 'conversion...'cuz the only things you won't get are the bowl seat and lid. And you'll save quite a bit in shipping charges by buying the conversion, 'cuz bowls are heavy!
Do I have to isolate my supply tank....
from my other fresh water tanks? If I decide to go with the pressurized version I was just wondering if I need to be concerned about bacteria creeping back into the drinking water. Or is this already taken care of by design? I thought I would just tap into one of the water lines suppling the head faucet? Thanks again.
from my other fresh water tanks? If I decide to go with the pressurized version I was just wondering if I need to be concerned about bacteria creeping back into the drinking water. Or is this already taken care of by design? I thought I would just tap into one of the water lines suppling the head faucet? Thanks again.
Electric toilets
When getting a toilet to be flushed with pressurized fresh water, you must get the CORRECT one to begin with. You can get them for raw (outside) water flushing, or for flushing with pressurized fresh water from your onboard pressure system. But you must order it that way to begin with - don't even think about trying to convert a raw water toilet to flush with pressure water. You're risking contaminating your tank(s), plus it may not work. In some instances it can be done, but depending on where you pruchase the necessary parts, you're looking at between $200 and $300, for just the parts, plus a good deal of labor in order to convert it. In most cases it isn't worth the time and money. It's best to wait until the toilet dies, then order the unit for the application you want. And there are no (to my knowledge) toilets that can do both - flip a switch and go from raw water to pressure water. Some manufacturers offer kits to do that, but you're looking at an even bigger expense. And finally, ALL manual toilets that are commonly available, are raw water-only. Their seals cannot withstand pressure water. If you have a manual toilet, it's raw water only - learn to live with it!
When getting a toilet to be flushed with pressurized fresh water, you must get the CORRECT one to begin with. You can get them for raw (outside) water flushing, or for flushing with pressurized fresh water from your onboard pressure system. But you must order it that way to begin with - don't even think about trying to convert a raw water toilet to flush with pressure water. You're risking contaminating your tank(s), plus it may not work. In some instances it can be done, but depending on where you pruchase the necessary parts, you're looking at between $200 and $300, for just the parts, plus a good deal of labor in order to convert it. In most cases it isn't worth the time and money. It's best to wait until the toilet dies, then order the unit for the application you want. And there are no (to my knowledge) toilets that can do both - flip a switch and go from raw water to pressure water. Some manufacturers offer kits to do that, but you're looking at an even bigger expense. And finally, ALL manual toilets that are commonly available, are raw water-only. Their seals cannot withstand pressure water. If you have a manual toilet, it's raw water only - learn to live with it!
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