What would you do?

[Franklin]

two types of people

There are the type who feels humans are the most important thing in the world and will do anything for the humans in their life. When shit hits the fan, their first thought is for safety and how to protect life.Then there is the other type who feel that humans come with an ability to handle the shit that hit the fan and their first thought is to turn off the fan.Neither type is wrong and neither type is right althought many would say their type is right. We just need to understand that there are many different ways to tackle a problem and different people are going to have different priorities. So before you start blasting somebody for taking a different set up steps, get off your high horse and take a look from a different perspective.

 

[Anchor Down]

For Those Who Have Eyes…

To Jim: Thank-you for taking pains to be polite. You sound very reasonable, and if we two were there, we'd agree 99%, and go out for a beer afterward.If anyone can't read my response and see that very same priority being acted out (boat first, crew second), the problem lies in his lack of comprehension of my orchestration of the two concerns, not in the clearness of my post. Either that, or a reader's inability to imagine being able to do both, but that's his limitation, not mine.That means that additional posts from me trying to clarify will be futile.Respectfully,Jeff

 

[Ctskip]

I get the feeling that

I'm being talked about. Maybe not, but if so. I can read clearly and understand much. I do understand the ships safety also works in combination with the crews safety. Duh?Comfort? You are on your own. What you see is what you get. As for the crews physical and emotional comfort while the boat lies powerless and heading for the rocky shore should be of NO CONCERN for the skipper at the moment. The wife should remove puker and sobber from the skippers face so he can think clearly and act without annoyances or interruptions. Distractions must take a back burner. Crying babies will be removed. If you can't puke and get over it, maybe you should think about swimming? That my thought about the guests. We are talking about saving lives, not adjusting wedgies. Or finding tissues for the sobber and a warm wash cloth for the puker, while being blown towards the shore. I suggested they comfort each other. The skipper has enough to think about with out worrying if he has tissues and warm wash clothes for his guests. Will a board game work? So what if the skipper does leave his guests (sobber and puker )out of the loop? You say that he will be faced with bigger overall problem. Can you explain please? I also dont see where a cavalier attitude enters this scenario. You also say something about 2/3rds of the crew??? The skipper has his wife and two guests. Where is his crew and how many are there? One, his wife  You say In short: yes, getting the boat safely underway is the priority; tending to your crew is fairly easily accomplished as wellEasily accomplished as well? So I am to assume that for you, getting the boat safely underway is fairly easy to accomplish? After all I am reading your posts. Talk about sounding cavalier Maybe I am being what you call "macho". I don't see it that way. I take charge and I'm in control of my ship. Isn't that what a skipper does? Some personalities are stronger than others. Like Franklin says, some turn off the fan and stop the --it from flying. I feel you can wipe you own face. Just one of those assumptions I take for granted. Maybe it's a yankee thing, ya think? If you cant take responsibility for your actions, you'll never get a invite aboard my ship. Keep it tight and Keep it up, Ctskip

 

[Joe11688]

The most important rule

I've read a lot of books on boating in our public library, but the book that I always enjoyed most, was Practical Boating by W.S.Kals. In his book, Steve Kals mentions a very important rule to go by, and you don't even have to be in your boat to practice this rule; Always have an alternative plan. If you're sailing from point A to Point B, figure on having an alternative destination, just in case a storm suddenly comes up. I try to think of alternatives to everything I do on my boat. Is my anchor ready to drop if I need to do it in a hurry? Will I be able to sail up to the dock if my engine fails on me? Are my fenders out with my lines ready for me to pick up when I get to the dock so I can step off my boat and tie up? Will they be on the right side when I turn her into the wind as I approach the dock? The answer to that one is yes because I practice this all the time at the club, along with sailing to, and off my mooring. Anyway, these are all alternatives, but as it was pointed out,--- you're caught out there and your engine has conked out. Personally, I'd reef the sail and head for a sheltered area. It beats staying there and getting pounded. Sure! It's going to be a little bumpy, but with the sails reefed, she'll take it with more ease, and get you there.

 

[Anchor Down]

The Limitations of BBs

No, Ctskip, that wasn't a slap at you, honest, and I wouldn't try to change you. I'm just tired of the need to clarify, clarify, clarify. I think posters here (and I'm one of them) are like two guys looking at two sides of the same coin. One guy says, "See, heads." The other guy turns it over and says, "But you're forgetting about this side, which is tails."The first guy turns the coin over again and says, "But remember, you've got heads, too." Second guy replies, "if you only look at heads, you may forget about tails."First guy (which may be be): "Didn't you hear me the first time? Heads."We're just not acknowledging one another, so we see a need to re-state. It would be funny if it weren't getting so tiresome.Part of what I enjoy about sailing is I can choose to do things my way. You sound like the same kind. You know you're right, and I know I'm right, and we both solved the problem pretty directly. Points for everyone. And we've spent so much time spining our wheels here, we're already two "What Would You Do?" scenarios behind now! Did you hear: All this small bickering and posturing as distracted us, and we've run aground. Now we can start arguing about exactly how thick the goop is, and which anchor will make the best kedge, and which knot to use to tie into the halyard. I can't wait!Maybe we can all agree that it sucks to have a wing keel stuck in the mud…Fair Winds and Clean Filters to All: I'm Outta HereJeffP.S.— I'm using "as well" in the sense of "in addition to," not "the first thing was easy, and this is easy, also." (Damn, there I go clarifying again!)

 

[tomfoolery]

man you guys take yourselves toooo seriously

goodness Gary just put a little senario on the board and you guys are acting like we really care what you think should be done !! I agree with Anchor down there are always more than one way to solve a problem these responses should be considered as a pool of knowledge that one can consider and choose to dip from or not , it is not a debate where a moderator ie gary will "award" a winner.