Firearms Regulations by Country The thread asking for information on Caribbean firearms regulations has, as promised, been deleted. Anyone interested in an extensive list of the various regulations can see the CruisersForum.com article: “Firearms Regulations by Country” cruisersforum.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1641 http://www.cruisersforum.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1641 Respectfully, Gord
What to expect - International Firearms Regulation
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Hi Gord, Actually, it was just moved to the Political forum. And thank you for posting one of the few replies that actually answered the question! ph.
Hi Gord, Actually, it was just moved to the Political forum. And thank you for posting one of the few replies that actually answered the question! ph.
Why was it deleted
Political? How do you figure that? Why was this question so sensitive? I figured there would be many cruisers that would like this kind of information.
Political? How do you figure that? Why was this question so sensitive? I figured there would be many cruisers that would like this kind of information.
Someone got weird
I think it was because someone got a little weird and carried away and insulted the Canadians and their philosophies and laws, which had absolutely nothing to do with the question at hand. If that wasnt the reason, it should have been.
I think it was because someone got a little weird and carried away and insulted the Canadians and their philosophies and laws, which had absolutely nothing to do with the question at hand. If that wasnt the reason, it should have been.
International Fire Arms
When I see the NEWS and watch a whole bunch of nut cases waving their AK47's some where in the unmentionable area (no cartoons, Please)I have a hard time trying to find Charleton Heston, is there some clue in picking him out?
When I see the NEWS and watch a whole bunch of nut cases waving their AK47's some where in the unmentionable area (no cartoons, Please)I have a hard time trying to find Charleton Heston, is there some clue in picking him out?
Why oh why did it get moved?
I am still curious as to why Phil started off by saying if it got political it would be deleted? It seemed like a good question needing good answers.
I am still curious as to why Phil started off by saying if it got political it would be deleted? It seemed like a good question needing good answers.
I never knew
Guadelupe had hunting as a tourist thing. Great post and thanks. I always thought as a liveaboard I would want to carry just because it's normal in the house. Clearly it's not the best idea.
Guadelupe had hunting as a tourist thing. Great post and thanks. I always thought as a liveaboard I would want to carry just because it's normal in the house. Clearly it's not the best idea.
Why the thread was moved
I agree, it is a good questions needing good answers. But historically, any post containing the word guns wanders off into a gun control orgy that has been flogged to death in every sailing forum on earth. It always gets nasty and takes a long time to die down. For background, our forum policies do not allow political discussions, personal attacks, or excessive profanity. We're alot more strict about that than most forums. Thank Gord for posting a good answer that fits the guidelines!
I agree, it is a good questions needing good answers. But historically, any post containing the word guns wanders off into a gun control orgy that has been flogged to death in every sailing forum on earth. It always gets nasty and takes a long time to die down. For background, our forum policies do not allow political discussions, personal attacks, or excessive profanity. We're alot more strict about that than most forums. Thank Gord for posting a good answer that fits the guidelines!
It got moved because...
...the individual wanted information on gun laws as it pertained to cruising in foreign waters. He didn't want to know whether or not you are in favor of weapons aboard. Phil is correct. Every time this subject comes up the original question is ignored and the thread takes on a life of its own and turns into a donnybrook. No matter how civil it begins, it doesn't take long for one person to start the war. Cheers, Bob
...the individual wanted information on gun laws as it pertained to cruising in foreign waters. He didn't want to know whether or not you are in favor of weapons aboard. Phil is correct. Every time this subject comes up the original question is ignored and the thread takes on a life of its own and turns into a donnybrook. No matter how civil it begins, it doesn't take long for one person to start the war. Cheers, Bob
Hawaiian sling?
Hi Gord, not trying to sound dumb...but what is a Hawaiian sling? Thanks Jack Hart Conover, NC
Hi Gord, not trying to sound dumb...but what is a Hawaiian sling? Thanks Jack Hart Conover, NC
Jack, this is how to use a Hawaiian Sling.
You hook the rubber band between your thumb and forefinger, and hold onto the pole in your palm. You then push the pole back in your palm, until the rubber band is fully stretched, and you are now holding toward the tip of the pole. Usually, by now the pole is arched into a long curve behind your hand. You keep a tight grip on the pole, swim close to the target (the fish, aka dinner), and let go of your grip, and you now have your dinner. You just have to remember that you need a lot of room to use one of these things, the whole length of the pole, all arched. Also, your target can't be further away then the length of the pole. A spear gun of any kind will have a trigger, and the spear is short. And when fired, the spear actually leaves your hand, or the gun. Jack: are you the same Jack that I know? We both worked as IT consultants for a Federal Way company? /John. Sorry Phil, I deviated from the original topic, but this is more fun than talking about firearms anyway.
You hook the rubber band between your thumb and forefinger, and hold onto the pole in your palm. You then push the pole back in your palm, until the rubber band is fully stretched, and you are now holding toward the tip of the pole. Usually, by now the pole is arched into a long curve behind your hand. You keep a tight grip on the pole, swim close to the target (the fish, aka dinner), and let go of your grip, and you now have your dinner. You just have to remember that you need a lot of room to use one of these things, the whole length of the pole, all arched. Also, your target can't be further away then the length of the pole. A spear gun of any kind will have a trigger, and the spear is short. And when fired, the spear actually leaves your hand, or the gun. Jack: are you the same Jack that I know? We both worked as IT consultants for a Federal Way company? /John. Sorry Phil, I deviated from the original topic, but this is more fun than talking about firearms anyway.
You have to rotate the spear! ;D
To keep the spear from bowing in the Hawaiian Sling, you have to rotate or twist the spear shaft as you push it back against the sling so that the surgical rubber tubing is coiled around the spear like a screw to keep it from bowing. The coiled rubber tube forces the spear to rotate when you release the spear, this makes the spear track straighter underwater as it spins. Fair Winds, Clyde
To keep the spear from bowing in the Hawaiian Sling, you have to rotate or twist the spear shaft as you push it back against the sling so that the surgical rubber tubing is coiled around the spear like a screw to keep it from bowing. The coiled rubber tube forces the spear to rotate when you release the spear, this makes the spear track straighter underwater as it spins. Fair Winds, Clyde
No trigger on a "Sling"
Unlike a “spear gun”, a Hawaiian Sling has no trigger mechanism. A Hawaiian Sling consists of a rounded block (wood or plastic) with a hole in the middle. A length of surgical tubing is fastened to each side, with a hollowed receptacle for the butt of the spear. You hold the block in one hand, slip the spear through it and insert the butt end into the receptacle. You pull back on the butt end and receptacle, aim, and let go. Some prefer spears with the tubing attached to the spear. These are limited as to distance they’ll travel, but you’re less likely to loose the spear because you might keep hold of the tubing. Pole spears and Hawaiian Slings are the only legal means to spear fish (& Lobster) in the Bahamas. Thanks Clyde, for the “coil the sling” trick to mimic rifling.
Unlike a “spear gun”, a Hawaiian Sling has no trigger mechanism. A Hawaiian Sling consists of a rounded block (wood or plastic) with a hole in the middle. A length of surgical tubing is fastened to each side, with a hollowed receptacle for the butt of the spear. You hold the block in one hand, slip the spear through it and insert the butt end into the receptacle. You pull back on the butt end and receptacle, aim, and let go. Some prefer spears with the tubing attached to the spear. These are limited as to distance they’ll travel, but you’re less likely to loose the spear because you might keep hold of the tubing. Pole spears and Hawaiian Slings are the only legal means to spear fish (& Lobster) in the Bahamas. Thanks Clyde, for the “coil the sling” trick to mimic rifling.
Hawaiian Slings 
There are different versions of the Hawaiian Sling. The simplest one is just attaching a loop of surgical rubber to the end of the spear and hooking the loop between your thumb and index finger and rotate the spear as you pull up on the rubber tube. You have to coil the rubber tube around the spear to keep from bowing the spear. You grip the spear and the coil rubber in one hand, you relax your grip to fire the spear. You can fire the spear with one hand Another type is using a block of wood with a hole in the wooden block where the spear passes through with surgical tubing attached to one end. You can attach a cup in the loop for the spear end if it isn't notched. You hold the block of wood in one hand and rotate the block while gripping the rubber tube with the other hand; like using a bow and arrow or a sling-shot. To get greater power you push down on the spear while rotating it. You hold the block of wood hand and the spear shift in the other hand. You fire the spear by releasing the spear shift. You could try and use one hand if you can grip the block of wood and use your finger and thumb to grip the spear shaft. A third type of Hawaiian Sling is called the Hawaiian Hinge Gun. It is made with a garden Gate hinge for the trigger mechanism; because the garden gate hinge is galvanized. The Hawaiian Hinge Gun uses friction on the spear shaft for cocking the spear in the trigger. It can have a "Hair" trigger if you aren't careful. You grab the spear in one hand and use the other hand to hold the block of wood. You push down on the spear through the block of wood while rotating the spear. You use your finger on the block of wood to flip the hinge trigger against the spear shaft to cock it. The Hawaiian Hinge Gun allows you to shoot the spear with one hand. If you are going spear fishing for a long time it keeps your hand from cramping up. I found a web page that shows a Hawaiian Hinge Gun and talks about the Hawaiian Sling. Fair Winds, Clyde
There are different versions of the Hawaiian Sling. The simplest one is just attaching a loop of surgical rubber to the end of the spear and hooking the loop between your thumb and index finger and rotate the spear as you pull up on the rubber tube. You have to coil the rubber tube around the spear to keep from bowing the spear. You grip the spear and the coil rubber in one hand, you relax your grip to fire the spear. You can fire the spear with one hand Another type is using a block of wood with a hole in the wooden block where the spear passes through with surgical tubing attached to one end. You can attach a cup in the loop for the spear end if it isn't notched. You hold the block of wood in one hand and rotate the block while gripping the rubber tube with the other hand; like using a bow and arrow or a sling-shot. To get greater power you push down on the spear while rotating it. You hold the block of wood hand and the spear shift in the other hand. You fire the spear by releasing the spear shift. You could try and use one hand if you can grip the block of wood and use your finger and thumb to grip the spear shaft. A third type of Hawaiian Sling is called the Hawaiian Hinge Gun. It is made with a garden Gate hinge for the trigger mechanism; because the garden gate hinge is galvanized. The Hawaiian Hinge Gun uses friction on the spear shaft for cocking the spear in the trigger. It can have a "Hair" trigger if you aren't careful. You grab the spear in one hand and use the other hand to hold the block of wood. You push down on the spear through the block of wood while rotating the spear. You use your finger on the block of wood to flip the hinge trigger against the spear shaft to cock it. The Hawaiian Hinge Gun allows you to shoot the spear with one hand. If you are going spear fishing for a long time it keeps your hand from cramping up. I found a web page that shows a Hawaiian Hinge Gun and talks about the Hawaiian Sling. Fair Winds, Clyde
of course...
This gun discussion doesn't even come close to the vitriol spewed in the semi-annual Polyglow vs. Island Girl shouting matches. ;-)
This gun discussion doesn't even come close to the vitriol spewed in the semi-annual Polyglow vs. Island Girl shouting matches. ;-)
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