Uphill installation is NOT inevitable...plus...
I wasn't aware of the warranty against permeation odor, and couldn't find one on Trident's web site, which appears to be less than fully functional.
Works fine for me...and the warranty length is plainly visible at the bottom of the descriptions all their sanitation hoses Trident Marine: Sanitation Hose
They DO warn against the type of installation which is almost inevitable on many boats, saying: "Longest odor-free performance on the market, but self draining installations still recommended. "
But they don't say that any other installation voids their warranty.
Self-draining would have to mean that it's a downhill run all the way to the tank. Not gonna happen unless somebody comes up with an in-keel holding tank!
Not true! When it's an uphill run to the tank--which it is on most sailboats, the uphill run can be minimized by installing a loop--not necessarily a vented loop, just an arch--immediately after the toilet, which makes it only necessary to pump long enough--and in the DRY mode, btw, 'cuz any toilet that's working anywhere near factory spec can move bowl contents up to 4 vertical feet and/or 6' linear feet in the dry mode (if it can't, it's way PAST time to replace the joker valve!)--to move contents over the top of the loop...gravity will do the rest. And learning to use the dry mode to do more than just push the last of the water out the bowl--leaving waste sitting in the hoses, btw--can also increase the number of flushes a tank can hold by as much as 100%.
However, the main thing you're overlooking is, clean water doesn't permeate hoses, waste left to sit in 'em does. So always rinse the sea water and waste out of the hoses before the boat will sit by putting a couple of quarts of clean FRESH water through the system--which you may have to add with a cup from the sink-- before the boat will sit.
I'll contact Trident and see what they say. Notwithstanding this issue, I'm still sticking with Trident 101, base on your (and their) claims of permeation resistance.
Good decision 'cuz nothing else even comes close to its permeation resistance, not even SeaLand's highly touted "OdorSafe"...I've personally been on at least half a dozen boats on which it had permeated within a year and heard of many more.
I wasn't aware of the warranty against permeation odor, and couldn't find one on Trident's web site, which appears to be less than fully functional.
Works fine for me...and the warranty length is plainly visible at the bottom of the descriptions all their sanitation hoses Trident Marine: Sanitation Hose
They DO warn against the type of installation which is almost inevitable on many boats, saying: "Longest odor-free performance on the market, but self draining installations still recommended. "
But they don't say that any other installation voids their warranty.
Self-draining would have to mean that it's a downhill run all the way to the tank. Not gonna happen unless somebody comes up with an in-keel holding tank!
Not true! When it's an uphill run to the tank--which it is on most sailboats, the uphill run can be minimized by installing a loop--not necessarily a vented loop, just an arch--immediately after the toilet, which makes it only necessary to pump long enough--and in the DRY mode, btw, 'cuz any toilet that's working anywhere near factory spec can move bowl contents up to 4 vertical feet and/or 6' linear feet in the dry mode (if it can't, it's way PAST time to replace the joker valve!)--to move contents over the top of the loop...gravity will do the rest. And learning to use the dry mode to do more than just push the last of the water out the bowl--leaving waste sitting in the hoses, btw--can also increase the number of flushes a tank can hold by as much as 100%.
However, the main thing you're overlooking is, clean water doesn't permeate hoses, waste left to sit in 'em does. So always rinse the sea water and waste out of the hoses before the boat will sit by putting a couple of quarts of clean FRESH water through the system--which you may have to add with a cup from the sink-- before the boat will sit.
I'll contact Trident and see what they say. Notwithstanding this issue, I'm still sticking with Trident 101, base on your (and their) claims of permeation resistance.
Good decision 'cuz nothing else even comes close to its permeation resistance, not even SeaLand's highly touted "OdorSafe"...I've personally been on at least half a dozen boats on which it had permeated within a year and heard of many more.
