What Oday do I have here?

Oct 21, 2014
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Oday 22 Richmond
I have been asking a few questions of Oday owners lately about replacing my motor mount because I purchased an 8hp four stroke Honda and have been advised to beef things up a bit. I now have a very stupid question to ask and hope someone can help me. This is a 22 foot fixed keel boat. I thought it was a '73 and it may very well be but the layout is confusing. In most of the pictures I have seen there is a sink and shelf mounted forward of the port bunk up against the bulkhead leading to the head. On my boat the sink is located forward of the bulkhead that separates the main cabin from the bow berth on the starboard side. In other words right across from where the head would be mounted there is a small sink. It certainly looks like the original construction. For me it is all but useless where it is because there is very little room there between the bulkhead and the forward berth. Is this something somone added later on or was this ever the normal configuration?
 
Jun 2, 2004
1,952
Oday Day Sailer Wareham, MA
It sounds like you actually might have a 1972 O'DAY 22 or very early 1973, the original layout of the cabin was a full-length (about 6') settee/berth on the starboard side of the main cabin and a 2-person dinette that dropped down to become another single berth on the port side, unlike the later (1973-83) model years, there was no galley counter (sink and location for stove) on the port side. The (apparently optional?) sink was mounted in what I would consider the head area (between main cabin and V-berth, across from the location for the head itself. On the later model years there was a sort-of hanging locker in that spot.
Take a look at this page from a 1972 SAIL Magazine Sailboat Dirrectory. Also, I've added a few pics of another 1972 O'DAY 22, and some pics of later boats for comparison.
 

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Oct 21, 2014
190
Oday 22 Richmond
Thanks very much Sunbird. I would assume they changed the location of the sink because of customer feedback. Have you ever heard of anyone saying that they like where it is currently located (on the port side in the main cabin)? I don't like where it presently is located because of the tight space. Seems like all you could really do is dribble some water on your hands and get out of there as soon as possible. I have a real problem navigating that area anyway. I am 6' 5" tall and my ass has a zip code. It's very difficult to even get past that narrow bulkhead door. I would much rather commit that space forward of the bulkhead to storage as I have two Danforth anchors, a bunch of line, a 150% Genoa, etc. that I need to find space for. I don't imagine ever using those forward bunks for anything but storage anyway and I may just do away with the cushions although they are all new. The previous owner bought all new sails (main, jib, and Genoa) replaced the cushions and replaced all the running rigging. The Genoa and the jib have a wire rope sewed into the luff for the roller furling and they are a bit stiff and kind of hard to store. I don't really need a sink anyway. My 40' gaff rigged sloop didn't have a sink and I really never missed it. Any thoughts on this? Thanks again for all your help.
 
Jun 2, 2004
1,952
Oday Day Sailer Wareham, MA
I think the original (1972) layour must have looked good on paper, but doesn't really seem practical in reality. O'DAY made the change pretty quick, I actually think it might have been phased in during that first year... but I'm not certain. At the time (early 1970's) the style was for dinettes in the layout of sailboat (and powerboat for that matter) interiors...... they sort-of worked on some... but it would appear that there really wasn't room in the O'DAY 22 for that type of layout. For one thing it seems there was no room for any kind of galley (stove, sink ,countertop) with the dinette. The sink like yours appears to have been optional, almost an afterthought. I guess the new layout (galley to port and eliminating the dinette in favor of the more traditional settee/berth on each side of the cabin) was popular enough to stick with, O'DAY kept it for the rest of the production run (1973-83), Also, when the 22 was replaced by the 222 the interior of the 222 is really just an updated (and reversed) version of the 22 (galley was on the starboardside of the 222). Also, when O'DAY introduced the 20 in 1973, the orignal layout was almost the same as the 22, with the galley to port and 2 settee/berths in the main cabin.

Personally, I like to have some kind of sink on a boat (haven't figured a way to make one for my DS II) but, the sink doesn't need to be "built-in", we used a shallow plastic dishpan for many years on our old CAL 21 before my Dad got a good buy on a surplus sink (similar to the one on your 22) and we added that (about 20 years after buying the boat). True, such a small sink isn't luxury, especially with a hand-pumped faucet! However, it worked and allowed rinsing off hands prior to meals, or after various tasks, and we even washed dishes (I think that might have been easier with the old plastic dishpan) which was when the built-in sink did have one advantage..... a thru-hull drain.

Personally, my suggestion would be to remove the sink on your boat if it is in the way, then if I needed a "sink", I'd use a bucket and for water I'd get a 1-2 gallon water jug with a spigot (might even use an old one-gallon ketchup or mustard bottle like at a hot dog stand) that could be tucked out of the way when not in use.

Sounds like you have an old-style "luff-wire" type jib furler, they worked, but the newer style with an aluminum or plastic luff extrusion that fits over the forestay works 1000 times better. That might be a good upgrade in the future, CDI brand (D&R sells them at a good price) is a good one, as is the slightly more expensive Schaefer Snap-furl.
Some owners that do stil lhave those wire-luff furlers will stow the jib by furleing it, then lowering the furled jib (like a big sausage!) and coiling it like a hose.
 
Oct 21, 2014
190
Oday 22 Richmond
Thanks again Sunbird. I may very well pull that sink out. I have some two gallon jugs that I use for camping that have spigots on them and I could actually rig one up for gravity feed into a wash basin that would seem more appropriate. Another option would be to keep the sink, do away with the hokey hand pump which seems a bit absurd, and use the jugs I have as a gravity feed utilizing the through the hull drain that is there for the present sink. I would just need to mount a shelf above the current sink to set the jug on when I need it and keep the jug on the floor until needed. As far as the jib furler is concerned , it's kind of what I've got for now. The sails are brand new still in the package so I will at least keep them for the time being. I could not for the life of me figure out how that furling system was rigged so I called Shaefer who made the rig. They were very helpful and sent me the directions. The guy I talked to said it was actually a very high quality all stainless steel system although a bit outdated. The system has an upper swivel that is pulled up the forestay with an extra halyard and blocks. I did discover one nice advantage to having that extra block and tackle. Since it is attached to the masthead truck I can use it to raise my mast very easily. After getting the mast up and in the step, I can just attach the forestay and then back off on the halyard. The only thing this requires is to sort of get the mast started upward so I am not pulling in a straight line to the bow. I do this with a whisker pole while standing in the cockpit. With the mechanical advantage available from the block and tackle all I need to do is lift the mast about five feet in the back and pull it up. There is a slightly dicey moment there when the mast is not well supported side to side (no baby stays and the shrouds are still loose) but this only happens for a moment until the shrouds start to tighten up. I just pull fast and don't screw around and it goes right up. Thanks again for your help.