Hi folk's am purchasing an Oday 22. What motor, or more importantly, what shaft length am I looking for. It has a manual lift in which it is up while on sail, you lift it up, out and lower it to run the motor. Thanks in advance for all help!
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Jack, You may want to check the recent archives. I remember that I posted a question about this and got quite a few responses. Based on the recommendations, I bought a 6 hp 4-stroke long shaft engine for my O'Day 222 and it works fine for my purposes, which is inland lakes and Lake Michigan coastal cruising. I was concerned about the weight of a four stroke, but since the 6 hp model I bought (Tohatsu) is a single cylander model, it was actually lighter than my 7.5 hp 30 year old Mercury 2-stroke. I bought it online and had it delivered three days after I ordered it. So far (I've only had it a couple of months) I have no complaints. Others may have other opinions, but this has worked well for me. Good luck! Dave s/v Hakuna Matata O'Day 222
Jack, You may want to check the recent archives. I remember that I posted a question about this and got quite a few responses. Based on the recommendations, I bought a 6 hp 4-stroke long shaft engine for my O'Day 222 and it works fine for my purposes, which is inland lakes and Lake Michigan coastal cruising. I was concerned about the weight of a four stroke, but since the 6 hp model I bought (Tohatsu) is a single cylander model, it was actually lighter than my 7.5 hp 30 year old Mercury 2-stroke. I bought it online and had it delivered three days after I ordered it. So far (I've only had it a couple of months) I have no complaints. Others may have other opinions, but this has worked well for me. Good luck! Dave s/v Hakuna Matata O'Day 222
Thanks for the info.
Thanks Dave, I appreciate that! What is the website that you ordered it from. If I can be nosy, roughly how much did you pay for it? I seem to remember seeing that brand at a Boaters US yesterday in Pensacola. Thanks again for the reply. Jack
Thanks Dave, I appreciate that! What is the website that you ordered it from. If I can be nosy, roughly how much did you pay for it? I seem to remember seeing that brand at a Boaters US yesterday in Pensacola. Thanks again for the reply. Jack
Outboard motors
I read an article by a surveyor in which he said he considers 1 horsepower for each 500 lbs of boat to be adequate. That would indicate 5 horsepower to be about right for 222 if I remember the weight correctly. My impression is that there are many more brands of motors than there are motors. For example, Nissan and Tohatsu are usually the same thing except for the color and the decals. Honda, I think, is unique and won't be found under another brand.
I read an article by a surveyor in which he said he considers 1 horsepower for each 500 lbs of boat to be adequate. That would indicate 5 horsepower to be about right for 222 if I remember the weight correctly. My impression is that there are many more brands of motors than there are motors. For example, Nissan and Tohatsu are usually the same thing except for the color and the decals. Honda, I think, is unique and won't be found under another brand.
Yamaha
I am very pleased with my Yamaha 4 hp, 4 stroke, long shaft. I sail on Lake Michigan.
I am very pleased with my Yamaha 4 hp, 4 stroke, long shaft. I sail on Lake Michigan.
Motor
This is a popular question. I've had my "22" for 33 years and have used from 3HP to 9.9HP. I feel perhaps the most important thing is to keep the weight down. The 5-6HP two cycle outboard is about ideal. Its true the four cycle will use less gas, but it is (I feel) too heavy & puts excessive strain on the bracket. You will need a "long" shaft (20") unless the lower end of the motor is well submerged when the bracket is down. I've had a Evinrude 6HP since 1999, works great. You may be able to locate a good used one. Don't forget its a sailboat not a powerboat..You should be sailing most of the time. Good Luck!
This is a popular question. I've had my "22" for 33 years and have used from 3HP to 9.9HP. I feel perhaps the most important thing is to keep the weight down. The 5-6HP two cycle outboard is about ideal. Its true the four cycle will use less gas, but it is (I feel) too heavy & puts excessive strain on the bracket. You will need a "long" shaft (20") unless the lower end of the motor is well submerged when the bracket is down. I've had a Evinrude 6HP since 1999, works great. You may be able to locate a good used one. Don't forget its a sailboat not a powerboat..You should be sailing most of the time. Good Luck!
The righ HP for the right Job
I have a 1977 O'Day 22! I run a Mariner 9.9 on it. I need the extra power to run in and out of Port Everglades Channel. When you purchase the motor, if it is not a "sail drive" have the marina plug up the exhaust through the props, and put some exhast holes on both sides of the shaft just above the cavitation plate. Remember that a sail boat wants to move forward, it is a displacement hull. Stopping it with a motor that exhausts through the prop is nearly imposible! The exhaust causes bubbles to form around the prop - cavitate - and the blades will only bite air. Unless you get one of the smaller 4 or 5 hp motors, they will exhaust through the prop. Best of Luck to you! You purchased a fine boat! Paul "Fine As Frog's Hair"
I have a 1977 O'Day 22! I run a Mariner 9.9 on it. I need the extra power to run in and out of Port Everglades Channel. When you purchase the motor, if it is not a "sail drive" have the marina plug up the exhaust through the props, and put some exhast holes on both sides of the shaft just above the cavitation plate. Remember that a sail boat wants to move forward, it is a displacement hull. Stopping it with a motor that exhausts through the prop is nearly imposible! The exhaust causes bubbles to form around the prop - cavitate - and the blades will only bite air. Unless you get one of the smaller 4 or 5 hp motors, they will exhaust through the prop. Best of Luck to you! You purchased a fine boat! Paul "Fine As Frog's Hair"
Web site
Jack, Go to http://www.onlineoutboards.com/ and then you can price the various models for Tohatsu and the Nissan. They are identical motors except for the decals. The price was around $1200 if I recall correctly. Dave s/v Hakuna Matata O'Day 222
Jack, Go to http://www.onlineoutboards.com/ and then you can price the various models for Tohatsu and the Nissan. They are identical motors except for the decals. The price was around $1200 if I recall correctly. Dave s/v Hakuna Matata O'Day 222
Keep the LBS low
I use a 3.5 two stroke motor, it may be a little loud sometimes, it is perfect for a 22. I sail on Lake Erie and have had no problems with it.
I use a 3.5 two stroke motor, it may be a little loud sometimes, it is perfect for a 22. I sail on Lake Erie and have had no problems with it.
Power Vs. Conditions
4hp might be enough for calm condiontions. A 6hp will push you at hull speed at less than full throttle. If you are fighing a strong current and serious weather is pending, even 6 won't be enough. I have had to fight a strong current on the Hudson while heading into the wind and I don't think I was making more than a knot forward. I wouldn't go too light. My 6hp evenrude is not too heavey for the boat and I feel that it is good for most conditions, epecially the back pocket. Just my 2cents. Kevin
4hp might be enough for calm condiontions. A 6hp will push you at hull speed at less than full throttle. If you are fighing a strong current and serious weather is pending, even 6 won't be enough. I have had to fight a strong current on the Hudson while heading into the wind and I don't think I was making more than a knot forward. I wouldn't go too light. My 6hp evenrude is not too heavey for the boat and I feel that it is good for most conditions, epecially the back pocket. Just my 2cents. Kevin
Putt - Putt
Hi Jack; Congrats on your new 22. Best of luck with her. I have a Merc 9.9 two-stroke on a Gareleck heavy duty motor mount bolted directly through the transom. I did away with the standard mount and wedge that the boat came with. The Merc's a tad heavy and will tilt the boat at rest (makes starboard tacks faster!) It replaced a Johnson 6 hp Sailmaster. The 9.9 gives plenty of power and gets her up to hull speed easily. It uses more gas than the Johnson 6. Having the power reserve is nice. The Merc offers one-handed shift / throttle control, making motoring and maneuvering a breeze without having to reach back and shift gears. Best of luck Stu "Karakahl" 1979 Oday 22 CB Centerport
Hi Jack; Congrats on your new 22. Best of luck with her. I have a Merc 9.9 two-stroke on a Gareleck heavy duty motor mount bolted directly through the transom. I did away with the standard mount and wedge that the boat came with. The Merc's a tad heavy and will tilt the boat at rest (makes starboard tacks faster!) It replaced a Johnson 6 hp Sailmaster. The 9.9 gives plenty of power and gets her up to hull speed easily. It uses more gas than the Johnson 6. Having the power reserve is nice. The Merc offers one-handed shift / throttle control, making motoring and maneuvering a breeze without having to reach back and shift gears. Best of luck Stu "Karakahl" 1979 Oday 22 CB Centerport
Batteries not included
I have an O'Day 25, and I use a 9.9 mercury. It has an electric start, which comes in very handy for those times you need to use a motor. There is a fellow here at the marina with a 222 Oday. Now let me make it very clear Florida=Tropical weather, i.e. hurricanes. All stroms aside the marina is exposed to storng north winds much of the winter. Well back to my point, this clown pulls out an electric trolling motor to leave the marina, navigate through a tight narrow channel, return to port, and has to fight the wind. Wow, can you say hazard? Not to mention he uses Interstate CAR batteries. With a 222 Oday you may be able to get away with using a trolling motor, however your environment should be a determing factor in this choice. Florida sailing poses several threats year round, and not all are weather realted. I suggest getting a gas 2 stroke or 4 stroke and be done with it.
I have an O'Day 25, and I use a 9.9 mercury. It has an electric start, which comes in very handy for those times you need to use a motor. There is a fellow here at the marina with a 222 Oday. Now let me make it very clear Florida=Tropical weather, i.e. hurricanes. All stroms aside the marina is exposed to storng north winds much of the winter. Well back to my point, this clown pulls out an electric trolling motor to leave the marina, navigate through a tight narrow channel, return to port, and has to fight the wind. Wow, can you say hazard? Not to mention he uses Interstate CAR batteries. With a 222 Oday you may be able to get away with using a trolling motor, however your environment should be a determing factor in this choice. Florida sailing poses several threats year round, and not all are weather realted. I suggest getting a gas 2 stroke or 4 stroke and be done with it.
Seagull Silver Century 5 Horse
My long shaft 5 H.P. 1980 Silver Century British Seagull is light and powerful, designed from ground up (from the water up?) for pushing displacement hulls. But I recently had a GPS on the boat for the first time, and discovered that my speed was less than I thought... only about 4 to 5 MPH. Not hull speed, in other words. Still, I have not really had a problem getting where I needed to, under varied and sometimes difficult conditions. And I can carry it with one hand, it's so light. By the way, Seagulls are noisy as hell. Rich.
My long shaft 5 H.P. 1980 Silver Century British Seagull is light and powerful, designed from ground up (from the water up?) for pushing displacement hulls. But I recently had a GPS on the boat for the first time, and discovered that my speed was less than I thought... only about 4 to 5 MPH. Not hull speed, in other words. Still, I have not really had a problem getting where I needed to, under varied and sometimes difficult conditions. And I can carry it with one hand, it's so light. By the way, Seagulls are noisy as hell. Rich.
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