What Make of Sailboat

Aug 24, 2019
36
Looking 14' to 22' Lake Manitoba
Hello everyone. I just picked up a garage sale find. I'm looking for help finding out what make of boat this is. It needs a cleaning. Also, I've never seen the 2 flaps at the back before. Can anyone help me out on the make and what the flaps are. Thanks.
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DArcy

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Feb 11, 2017
1,767
Islander Freeport 36 Ottawa
It looks a bit like a CL16 but not quite like the ones I know. The flaps at the back are bailers. They should be nominally above the water line at rest but will need some gasketing to keep the water out under way. There should be strings going to jam cleats inside to hold them closed although I've seen bungy chords used to hold them closed as well.

Do you have the rudder and the main sail? It looks like the jib is there.
 
Jan 4, 2010
1,037
Farr 30 San Francisco
Canada eh? So CL16 is a possibility how long is it? Does it have sails? The insignia on the sails will narrow it down. Jack Holt was a prolific English designer of sailing dingies a lot of small boat sailing in Canada seems to have gotten going with transplanted Englishmen. Looks like a pretty good boat once cleaned up.
 
Aug 24, 2019
36
Looking 14' to 22' Lake Manitoba
I was thinking a cl16 as well. it is 16'. i haven't laid out the sail yet. i should check that out. i forgot about the sail insignia.

cl16 looks like the closest boat to it but doesn't look exactly.
 

Joe

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Jun 1, 2004
8,158
Catalina 27 Mission Bay, San Diego
Here's a link to the sales brochure... note that the company has been making the CL16 for 50 years.... this new one, for instance shows a traveler track on the transom... whereas your boat's traveler is in the cockpit, mid boom... but the chined hull and other particulars looks similar to you pics.... There are many pictures of the CL 16 that show racing, daysailing and cruising configurations.... If the critical parts are there.... rudder, dagger board, rigging, mast/boom and sails... then a little elbow grease will result in a pretty nifty lake boat. If it's just sails, you'll find that a suit of sails for a boat this size won't break the bank and will result in a big leap in performance... Good find.... you're gonna have fun with it.
 
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Oct 19, 2017
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The flaps at the back are bailers. They should be nominally above the water line at rest but will need some gasketing to keep the water out under way. There should be strings going to jam cleats inside to hold them closed although I've seen bungy chords used to hold them closed as well.
Yep. The bailers on my Windmill use 1/8" cord.

That looks like a very fun boat.

-Will (Dragonfly)
 
Aug 24, 2019
36
Looking 14' to 22' Lake Manitoba
Here's a link to the sales brochure... note that the company has been making the CL16 for 50 years.... this new one, for instance shows a traveler track on the transom... whereas your boat's traveler is in the cockpit, mid boom... but the chined hull and other particulars looks similar to you pics.... There are many pictures of the CL 16 that show racing, daysailing and cruising configurations.... If the critical parts are there.... rudder, dagger board, rigging, mast/boom and sails... then a little elbow grease will result in a pretty nifty lake boat. If it's just sails, you'll find that a suit of sails for a boat this size won't break the bank and will result in a big leap in performance... Good find.... you're gonna have fun with it.
Thanks. i thought the cl16 hull looked similar, but the history of the cl states that it hasn't changed since inception. the hull chines look similar. But the rack at the back seems to have always been there on the cl16.
 
Jan 4, 2010
1,037
Farr 30 San Francisco
looks like it is rigged for a spinnaker, does the CL16 have one? Based on the sheaves through the deck at the transom. The aft thwart is kind of weird, might be an owner mod?
 
Aug 24, 2019
36
Looking 14' to 22' Lake Manitoba
looks like it is rigged for a spinnaker, does the CL16 have one? Based on the sheaves through the deck at the transom. The aft thwart is kind of weird, might be an owner mod?
i was wondering if it was modified also. it is different than the cl. it kind of looks like its a cross between an albacore and a cl???
 
Jan 4, 2010
1,037
Farr 30 San Francisco
Def not an Albacore, I used to sail one. Bow is plumb for one thing. I have seen CL16's but never paid much attention, chine looks "softer" than a CL. There were dozens of dingy designs post WW2 coming out of the UK. Looks like a nice boat for daysailing camping/sailing on lakes. Based on the HW it has sporting pretensions.
 
Aug 24, 2019
36
Looking 14' to 22' Lake Manitoba
thanks. yah know what youre saying about the hull and the bow. im really curious.
 
Aug 24, 2019
36
Looking 14' to 22' Lake Manitoba
After looking at the sail ensignias, as it has multiple sails. it has a an "E" on two of them and one has a snipe. I think it might be a Lazy E or National E.
 
Jan 4, 2010
1,037
Farr 30 San Francisco
Not a Snipe, that transom on the Snipe isn't plumb Google images for the National E seem a good match. some of them even have the crazy aft thwart. So I think you have yourself a National E.
 
Aug 24, 2019
36
Looking 14' to 22' Lake Manitoba
Not a Snipe, that transom on the Snipe isn't plumb Google images for the National E seem a good match. some of them even have the crazy aft thwart. So I think you have yourself a National E.
I think so too. Thanks everyone for your help.