Traded in the Finn (getting old, have kid, yeah I know..) a friend of mine told me I could have his O'Day 14. I figured it was a O'day 15 or a javelin that he called an 'O'day 14' but when I got it, it sure isn't a Javelin or O'day 15. The sail has the blue 'O' with a 14 on it, the hull number makes it even more confusing, STRSP131K687 which makes it a starcraft!!! The side is clearly marked with the O'day logo. WHat is it? And even worse any Idea on how to get parts or a portsmouth rating (yeah, dont remind me that I traded in the Finn when you tell me the rating). Mike (confused in Long Beach)
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What kind of boat?
Do you have a picture of the boat that you could post? Oday had several small boats available at the time this one was built, some built by other makers.
Do you have a picture of the boat that you could post? Oday had several small boats available at the time this one was built, some built by other makers.
need to take a picture
I need to take a picture, but I think it might be a knock off or continuation of a Holder 14, looks alot like it, has a daggerboard, pretty flat bottom, and a 'storage box' in front just like a holder. The jib is free to move from side to side (no jib cleats like the holder). Mike
I need to take a picture, but I think it might be a knock off or continuation of a Holder 14, looks alot like it, has a daggerboard, pretty flat bottom, and a 'storage box' in front just like a holder. The jib is free to move from side to side (no jib cleats like the holder). Mike
Not a Widgeon
The Widgeon was only 12' 4" long. The Sail would have had a "W" inside the "O" and not a number. I thought is was a replacement sail, and the sailmaker figured this Javelin was a 14' O'Day and so put a "14" inside the "O", but the HIN that you give is not a Javelin. STRSP131K687 would be an "O'Day", maybe! STR = Starcraft, in the mid-1980's O'Day was a division of "Starcraft Sailboats" a division of Lear Siegler Marine. SP = ? Javelin would be "B", Widgeon "A", 15 "V" ("S" = O'Day 30, "P" = O'Day 20)? 131 would be the Class# or how many of that class had been built so far K6 = boat was "certified" or introduced in November 1986 87 = model year of boat You mentioned that the boat has a daggerboard, not a pivoting centerboard, the O'Day 15 (1981-84) had that but the 15 was not built in 1987. There were a lot more than 131 of the O'Day 15 built. Except for the Hull I.D. mentioned, I thought perhaps this was a Catalina Capri 14.2 (also known as an "OMEGA 14" but that has a pivoting CB, not a daggerboard. As others have said, a picture may be worth a thousand words!
The Widgeon was only 12' 4" long. The Sail would have had a "W" inside the "O" and not a number. I thought is was a replacement sail, and the sailmaker figured this Javelin was a 14' O'Day and so put a "14" inside the "O", but the HIN that you give is not a Javelin. STRSP131K687 would be an "O'Day", maybe! STR = Starcraft, in the mid-1980's O'Day was a division of "Starcraft Sailboats" a division of Lear Siegler Marine. SP = ? Javelin would be "B", Widgeon "A", 15 "V" ("S" = O'Day 30, "P" = O'Day 20)? 131 would be the Class# or how many of that class had been built so far K6 = boat was "certified" or introduced in November 1986 87 = model year of boat You mentioned that the boat has a daggerboard, not a pivoting centerboard, the O'Day 15 (1981-84) had that but the 15 was not built in 1987. There were a lot more than 131 of the O'Day 15 built. Except for the Hull I.D. mentioned, I thought perhaps this was a Catalina Capri 14.2 (also known as an "OMEGA 14" but that has a pivoting CB, not a daggerboard. As others have said, a picture may be worth a thousand words!
O'Day firefly???
COuld it be a firefly?? I just read a book about the history of fiberglass boats and their makers. There was a section on George O"Day and the boats he designed and made. One of them was a 14' sailboat called a firefly. Could this be one?? Mike C. O'28 unnamed
COuld it be a firefly?? I just read a book about the history of fiberglass boats and their makers. There was a section on George O"Day and the boats he designed and made. One of them was a 14' sailboat called a firefly. Could this be one?? Mike C. O'28 unnamed
Not an "O'DAY"
Despite the evidence, this is not an "O'DAY" per-se.....I think it may be a HOLDER 14 that has been disguised as an O'Day. The stripe design is O'DAY, even says "O'Day", there may be an "O" on the sail....but this is not a real "O'DAY". It may have been a sort-of prototype or one-off, or perhaps she was owned by an O'Day employee (or Dealer?) who decided to have some fun by customizing their own (non-O'Day) boat? The HIN is a bit confusing, since it does not follow the normal O'Day format, but that could have been explained by the fact that O'Day was in tranition between owners at the time the boat was built. Anyway, she look more like a HOLDER 14 than any O'Day. O'Day never built a model called the "O'DAY 14", there were a couple of 14' O'Day models (Puffin, and Javelin), but no O 14. Perhaps Rudy Nickerson at D&R Marine would know something? I may bring these pictures with me the next time that I visit him.
Despite the evidence, this is not an "O'DAY" per-se.....I think it may be a HOLDER 14 that has been disguised as an O'Day. The stripe design is O'DAY, even says "O'Day", there may be an "O" on the sail....but this is not a real "O'DAY". It may have been a sort-of prototype or one-off, or perhaps she was owned by an O'Day employee (or Dealer?) who decided to have some fun by customizing their own (non-O'Day) boat? The HIN is a bit confusing, since it does not follow the normal O'Day format, but that could have been explained by the fact that O'Day was in tranition between owners at the time the boat was built. Anyway, she look more like a HOLDER 14 than any O'Day. O'Day never built a model called the "O'DAY 14", there were a couple of 14' O'Day models (Puffin, and Javelin), but no O 14. Perhaps Rudy Nickerson at D&R Marine would know something? I may bring these pictures with me the next time that I visit him.
A collectors item?
the mystery gets deeper and deeper. Now im thinking it is a collectors item, worth millions on e-bay.... On the other hand, a Holder in O'day clothing isn't too bad either. I sent some pictures to Rudy, I have not heard back from him yet, his respose was the same as most people, 'O'day never made a 14'. Next part of the story.... I sent the story to the Holder/ Hobie One users group, they told me it is close but not a holder either. Here is what the Holder/Hobie One told me. (BTW, it int any of the boats they suggested it could be either) O'Day seems to have a boat typical of the 14' design of the '70's and '80's. I've seen several boats that look similar to the Holder design. The O'Day appears to be closer than most. I venture to guess most boat builders "borrow" from one another's good ideas and popular styling. The basic hull design for them all strikes me as that of the dory dating back to the whaling days and beyond. Some similar 14' sailboats: Wayfarer [This one came along in the 1950's and may have influenced all the rest] http://www.angelfire.com/de2/WIT/index.html Lido 14 http://www.santanasailboats.com/boats/lido14/lido14.htm American 14.6 http://sailingsource.com/americansail/american14.php Catalina - Capri 14.2 http://capri14.org/ CL 14 http://www.vaxxine.com/clsailboats/cl14.htm W.D. Schock - Capri 14 http://www.santanasailboats.com/boats/capri14/capri.htm CHRYSLER DABBER 14 Glen-L 14 http://www.glen-l.com/designs/sailboat/gl14.html
the mystery gets deeper and deeper. Now im thinking it is a collectors item, worth millions on e-bay.... On the other hand, a Holder in O'day clothing isn't too bad either. I sent some pictures to Rudy, I have not heard back from him yet, his respose was the same as most people, 'O'day never made a 14'. Next part of the story.... I sent the story to the Holder/ Hobie One users group, they told me it is close but not a holder either. Here is what the Holder/Hobie One told me. (BTW, it int any of the boats they suggested it could be either) O'Day seems to have a boat typical of the 14' design of the '70's and '80's. I've seen several boats that look similar to the Holder design. The O'Day appears to be closer than most. I venture to guess most boat builders "borrow" from one another's good ideas and popular styling. The basic hull design for them all strikes me as that of the dory dating back to the whaling days and beyond. Some similar 14' sailboats: Wayfarer [This one came along in the 1950's and may have influenced all the rest] http://www.angelfire.com/de2/WIT/index.html Lido 14 http://www.santanasailboats.com/boats/lido14/lido14.htm American 14.6 http://sailingsource.com/americansail/american14.php Catalina - Capri 14.2 http://capri14.org/ CL 14 http://www.vaxxine.com/clsailboats/cl14.htm W.D. Schock - Capri 14 http://www.santanasailboats.com/boats/capri14/capri.htm CHRYSLER DABBER 14 Glen-L 14 http://www.glen-l.com/designs/sailboat/gl14.html
None of the above?
Not a Wayfarer, that boat has a pivoting centerboard and double chine hull, ditto for the CL 14. Not a CAPRI 14.2 or CAPRI 14 (really the same boat, different builders (CAPRI 14 might have a keel anyway) they had soft chines and a pivoting centerboard (must admit..until I looked closely at your pics, these were my guesses!). Not a Chrysler Dagger (I assume that was what you meant?) the Dagger was more like a Laser. Not a LIDO 14, the Lido is sort-of a lower freeboard competitor to the Capri, again..soft chines and a pivoting CB. Not a Glen-L 14, that was a plywood boat. I still think you have a Holder 14 disguised as an O'Day. I do seem to recall that there may be another 14' sailboat that was a near copy of the Holder 14, perhaps I'm dreaming...but I'll see if I can find any info in my home "library". Whatever, but the boat is not an O'DAY. Oh, Rudy takes a while to answer e-mail sent to him.
Not a Wayfarer, that boat has a pivoting centerboard and double chine hull, ditto for the CL 14. Not a CAPRI 14.2 or CAPRI 14 (really the same boat, different builders (CAPRI 14 might have a keel anyway) they had soft chines and a pivoting centerboard (must admit..until I looked closely at your pics, these were my guesses!). Not a Chrysler Dagger (I assume that was what you meant?) the Dagger was more like a Laser. Not a LIDO 14, the Lido is sort-of a lower freeboard competitor to the Capri, again..soft chines and a pivoting CB. Not a Glen-L 14, that was a plywood boat. I still think you have a Holder 14 disguised as an O'Day. I do seem to recall that there may be another 14' sailboat that was a near copy of the Holder 14, perhaps I'm dreaming...but I'll see if I can find any info in my home "library". Whatever, but the boat is not an O'DAY. Oh, Rudy takes a while to answer e-mail sent to him.
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