This guy in my community is giving away a 35' boat. He said engine is dead, but hull is OK. I'm tempted to take it (at take a look at it) since I have unused dock space, but I don't want to get stuck with something I cannot get rid of or have to pay to get rid of, if it becomes junk. My question is, what happens to a real old boat that is no longer functionable? Robert
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poor unsuspecting mark
Some unsuspecting mark takes it for what ever the last owner can get, somes times giving it away.
Some unsuspecting mark takes it for what ever the last owner can get, somes times giving it away.
then again, if it doesn't work out take it out
into the Pacific remove the hoses and open through haul fitting...just don't let the EPA or COASTAL COMMISSION find out... "crimes against the environment" worse than murder.
into the Pacific remove the hoses and open through haul fitting...just don't let the EPA or COASTAL COMMISSION find out... "crimes against the environment" worse than murder.
Chainsaw
will turn a 35' boat into a couple of pick up truck loads. Spars and deck hardware can be sold on ebay, keel sold to the scrapyard and certain engines such as an Atomic 4 are valuable unless the block is cracked and this will offset landfill costs. So, you stand to lose some time, sweat and effort. Live your dream, but invest in a survey before you pour a bunch of money into a hopeless cause.
will turn a 35' boat into a couple of pick up truck loads. Spars and deck hardware can be sold on ebay, keel sold to the scrapyard and certain engines such as an Atomic 4 are valuable unless the block is cracked and this will offset landfill costs. So, you stand to lose some time, sweat and effort. Live your dream, but invest in a survey before you pour a bunch of money into a hopeless cause.
Re-What happens to a real old or junk boat?
Its free ...... go for it. you could always part it out or sell it on ebay.
Its free ...... go for it. you could always part it out or sell it on ebay.
Lead keel
If the old boat has a lead keel it could be worth something. My Pearson 323 is supposed to have 4500#s of lead in it's keel!!!! The price of lead varies but it's always worth something. I guess a cast iron keel would be worth something too but a lot less.
If the old boat has a lead keel it could be worth something. My Pearson 323 is supposed to have 4500#s of lead in it's keel!!!! The price of lead varies but it's always worth something. I guess a cast iron keel would be worth something too but a lot less.
Good Question!
That's a good question! I always wanted to know if there's such a thing as a boat salvage business. I've read of one in Florida, but none closer to my home here on Lake Erie. I'd love to find a second-hand boom from a 80-83 O'day 34. I want to try out a longer boom on my O-30 with a sail with a longer foot. I know it will give me more light-wind power, but may adversely affect handling. Any comments from the group? Bill on STARGAZER
That's a good question! I always wanted to know if there's such a thing as a boat salvage business. I've read of one in Florida, but none closer to my home here on Lake Erie. I'd love to find a second-hand boom from a 80-83 O'day 34. I want to try out a longer boom on my O-30 with a sail with a longer foot. I know it will give me more light-wind power, but may adversely affect handling. Any comments from the group? Bill on STARGAZER
Boy Scouts
I have seen obscure articles in the back of sailing magazines under "Wanted" where there is some outfit begging for donations of old boats for the Boy Scouts. I don't know how picky they are but if they will take it, there could be a tax write off.
I have seen obscure articles in the back of sailing magazines under "Wanted" where there is some outfit begging for donations of old boats for the Boy Scouts. I don't know how picky they are but if they will take it, there could be a tax write off.
If the hull is sound, it becomes a project boat
If the hull isn't sound, it's ground up to go into a landfill. Project boats aren't for everyone, but for those have the desire, a few basic skills, the time (several years) to put into it, and would rather put their money into the boat instead making mortgage payments, rehabbing an old boat can be great way to end up with a boat that has everything on it a new boat has for less than 1/4 the price. And which can be sold for at least as much as you have in it. My last boat was a project boat, btw...20 years old...sound, but everything on her had to be replaced. 3 years later I had a 1-3 yr. old boat in a 20 yr old "shell." Comparable new, about $195k...my total investment, about $42k--the same or less than the minimum down payment and 3 years' mortgage payments on a comparable new boat would have been. Sold her for $48k. I'd do it again in a heartbeat...in fact, prob'ly the ONLY way I'd own another boat. But that doesn't mean it's something I recommend to everyone, 'cuz to do it right requires a lot of work and even more patience.
If the hull isn't sound, it's ground up to go into a landfill. Project boats aren't for everyone, but for those have the desire, a few basic skills, the time (several years) to put into it, and would rather put their money into the boat instead making mortgage payments, rehabbing an old boat can be great way to end up with a boat that has everything on it a new boat has for less than 1/4 the price. And which can be sold for at least as much as you have in it. My last boat was a project boat, btw...20 years old...sound, but everything on her had to be replaced. 3 years later I had a 1-3 yr. old boat in a 20 yr old "shell." Comparable new, about $195k...my total investment, about $42k--the same or less than the minimum down payment and 3 years' mortgage payments on a comparable new boat would have been. Sold her for $48k. I'd do it again in a heartbeat...in fact, prob'ly the ONLY way I'd own another boat. But that doesn't mean it's something I recommend to everyone, 'cuz to do it right requires a lot of work and even more patience.
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bill, that slightly longer foot
will move your center of effort back a bit and give you a bit more weather helm on the beat and reach. You might counter this with less rake to your mast and if you have a cb, to have it slightly back a bit... not in a full down position. This would move your center of lateral resistance back as well, to balance your CE, and hopefully regain your balance.
will move your center of effort back a bit and give you a bit more weather helm on the beat and reach. You might counter this with less rake to your mast and if you have a cb, to have it slightly back a bit... not in a full down position. This would move your center of lateral resistance back as well, to balance your CE, and hopefully regain your balance.
Real old boat....
What do you define as a "real old boat", is it a fiberglass hull (wooden hulls can require substantial repair for rot including chimes & ribs)? Is the engine salvageble, is the boat seaworthy (seek a surveyor). A 35' boat new can require a substantial amount of money to purchase. In my own opinion, the cost of hauling an old boat away to the scrape heap is worth the chance of rebuilding if the hull is seaworthy.
What do you define as a "real old boat", is it a fiberglass hull (wooden hulls can require substantial repair for rot including chimes & ribs)? Is the engine salvageble, is the boat seaworthy (seek a surveyor). A 35' boat new can require a substantial amount of money to purchase. In my own opinion, the cost of hauling an old boat away to the scrape heap is worth the chance of rebuilding if the hull is seaworthy.
Also depends on what's there
If by hull, you mean that the mast and rigging, winches, etc. are there and in reasonable condition it might be feasible. If you're looking literally at a bare hull, the cost of rigging etc. could add up very quickly.
If by hull, you mean that the mast and rigging, winches, etc. are there and in reasonable condition it might be feasible. If you're looking literally at a bare hull, the cost of rigging etc. could add up very quickly.
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