What do y'all do with the jib halyard if you've a furler?

[Sublime]

I've a Hunter 260.
I have a roller furler jib so the only reason to have the jib halyard is for raising or lowering the mast. Otherwise, it's been in the way.
I've lashed it to the mast plate. It slaps the mast or, if I loosen it, it slaps the sail.
I lashed it to a stanchion. If I tighten it, it will be slack and slap the sail on a broad reach or be "boinging" like a rubber band, all depending upon what tack I'm on and what tension I have it at. To me, that means it's messing with the mast bend some too. Regardless, I don't want it slapping the sail.

I could lash it forward if I'm not using the jib, but it will be in the way if I do use the jib.

Any suggestions?

 

[cephius (Dave)]

Re: What do y'all do with the jib halyard if you've a furler

I have it hooked to the base of the life line stanchion on the port side adjacent to the mast. It shares space with the shrouds and flag halyard. This puts it enough outboard to clear the jib sheet and gets it off the mast.

There is no way a snugged halyard is going to change the shape of the mast when the standing rigging is correctly tuned.

The red line going straight up is the jib halyard. As you can see, this stanchion has all kinds of things going on.

 

[DianaOfBurlington]

Stowing the halyard

Run it down to the rail as close as possible to one of the upper shrouds. It will not slap the spar there and should be no more in the way than the shroud is.

I presume you have a furler with its own internal halyard (CDI-?). Personally I prefer one that allows you to raise, lower and change sails for varying conditions. It is also safer to remove the sail from the groove entirely whenever you leave the boat for some time (definitely in the off-season).

You may find that the 'spare' halyard has some use should you ever encounter a situation when the furler's sail jams or becomes damaged (such as from too much weather). Then, you'll be glad to have it. Till then, consider it your asymmetrical spinnaker halyard, for when you have one

 

[cephius (Dave)]

Re: What do y'all do with the jib halyard if you've a furler

The jib halyard comes out of the mast below the fore stay (furling gear) making it hard to fly a spinnaker. The spinnaker halyard comes out above the fore stay, allowing the spinnaker to fly clear of all rigging.

 

[soling42]

Mine's tied at the upper end of the mast support strut and remains attached to the top of my gin pole that's stowed/clipped to the mast(pic). Spare halyards can surely be good but if it bugs you then just pull a tag line in and stow the halyard. It's good line maintenance to stow truly unneeded running rigging anyway, at least in the tropical sun that I have.

I'm with Dave on the fact that there's no way it's tweaking your mast(Unless maybe it's banjo string tight, which it shouldn't be). Dave, that's sure one busy stanchion, but if the halyard runs through the deck block where is the jib sheet? Couldn't spot it.

As a little safety side note, last year when I hoisted our spinnaker the little upper plastic block inserted in the mast simply exploded. Sun/heat finally did their work on the basic plastic block and I replaced it with a SS Garhaur insert that's tough as nails(pic). It could've easily severed the halyard if I'd have been solely depending on it during a mast hoist (which is why I usually tie both the jib and spinnaker halyards to the gin pole during a lift).

Hope the weather is getting better your way. It's sure ideal down here.
Fair winds, Mike

 

[cephius (Dave)]

Re: What do y'all do with the jib halyard if you've a furler

Soling42,

You can see both the red port jib sheet and the red halyard in that photo. The jib sheet is the larger line running fore and aft.

I have all new running rigging to install in a couple of weeks, when our season starts. Going with slightly smaller, but stronger, lines and no solid colors. (Purchased from this site with their recommendations for size.)

I tend to change the sheets every couple of years, but the halyards have not been replaced since new (2002) and are starting to show sun damage.

Since I do use the jib halyard for raising the mast, I'm not ready to remove and stow it. Pulling a halyard with a tag line always gives me problems.

 

[soling42]

Re: What do y'all do with the jib halyard if you've a furler

Dave, yeah plain as day once I looked again. My eyes were messing with me while I should be focusing on work instead of rigging. New running rigging is the best, and so many colors to choose from.

Off to spend a long perfect weekend on the boat anchored somewhere off of the turquoise waters of Longboat key. I'll be listening for that extra jib halyard gently slapping the mast tonight, music to my tired sailor ears.

Aloha, Mike

 

[DianaOfBurlington]

The jib halyard comes out of the mast below the fore stay (furling gear) making it hard to fly a spinnaker. The spinnaker halyard comes out above the fore stay, allowing the spinnaker to fly clear of all rigging.

Of course. But some people have other sails that can take advantage of it. I am rigging mine with a flying inner staysail that can be flown off the pole lift.

 

[MABell]

Re: What do y'all do with the jib halyard if you've a furler

It's how you hoist the solar shower, of course.