I was pretty excited today when I walked in to my local West Marine and they let me know that they were getting new line inventory and that all thier old stuff was 50% off, woohoo! I didn't have the specs of my H23 handy, so I thought I'd ask the professionals. The guy working said that I needed 2x my boat length + 6 feet + 10 feet if I wanted control from the cockpit. Sounded fine to me. I actually had a gut feeling and asked him to cut it 3 feet longer, just in case. So I get to the dock and start throwing on my new lines. Sheets all look wonderful, and now it's time to put up my main halyard... wait a minute... this line's too short! Oh no! So I call up WM and asked them what they could do about it and they said I could return it for 60% store credit. WHAT?! The EMPLOYEE told me to use the WRONG length, and now I'M the one who's responsible?! UTTER BOLOGNA! Oh, and all thier stuff is super expensive too! Rahhh![/rant off]