Eric Lindstrom congratulations but We are two weeks ahead of you folks. Tomorrow the broker gets the check!! We are in dry dock and I went down with the surveyor and there was about 3" of water over the bilge boards. We have a leak some where and I think that the cockpit drains, maybe the culprit. Anyone out there have any ideas? Also under the port bunk is collecting some water too. I don't think that much water could be coming through the portholes since the cushions are not wet. Help in Down East Maine
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Ron
Don't Give him the Check
It's your business, but I sure wouldn't give the broker a check until I found out what the problem is. It's like giving him a bus ticket. You may never hear from him a gain.... Just a thought..Ron/KA5HZV
It's your business, but I sure wouldn't give the broker a check until I found out what the problem is. It's like giving him a bus ticket. You may never hear from him a gain.... Just a thought..Ron/KA5HZV
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David Foster
We love ours, but survey, survey...
With this condition during the sales process, I'd complete a thorough survey (let your surveyor see the boat in the water) by _your_ surveyor before money changes hands. It's his job to tell you what's wrong, and how big a problem it would be to fix. Then you can walk, or get into maintenance as you by the boat. We love our 27. It's about the biggest boat at that length, has classic lines, and sails really well for our cruising needs. David Lady Lillie '77 h27
With this condition during the sales process, I'd complete a thorough survey (let your surveyor see the boat in the water) by _your_ surveyor before money changes hands. It's his job to tell you what's wrong, and how big a problem it would be to fix. Then you can walk, or get into maintenance as you by the boat. We love our 27. It's about the biggest boat at that length, has classic lines, and sails really well for our cruising needs. David Lady Lillie '77 h27
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Doug T.
Survey, survey, survey!!
If there's water in the bilge while on the hard, then there's obviously a leak. If there's a leak into the boat, there's also likely to be a leak into the deck coring. If there's a leak into the deck coring, you're looking at significant time and/or $$$ to fix. If you don't have a good plastic/brass mallet handy and/or if you don't have a good ear for sounding your deck, I'd HIGHLY recommend you pay an experienced surveyor to check things out for you. Oh, and by the way: LISTEN to the surveyor!!! We ignored ours last year and bought a 77 h27 that turned out to be in very terrible condition from top to bottom (especially bottom).
If there's water in the bilge while on the hard, then there's obviously a leak. If there's a leak into the boat, there's also likely to be a leak into the deck coring. If there's a leak into the deck coring, you're looking at significant time and/or $$$ to fix. If you don't have a good plastic/brass mallet handy and/or if you don't have a good ear for sounding your deck, I'd HIGHLY recommend you pay an experienced surveyor to check things out for you. Oh, and by the way: LISTEN to the surveyor!!! We ignored ours last year and bought a 77 h27 that turned out to be in very terrible condition from top to bottom (especially bottom).
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John Lynch
272 Hunter's Rock,BUT...
You need to find another classic Hunter 272. 3 inches of water above the floorboards means 6-7 inches overall. The beautiful wood is now crap where the water has permeated. Also , you want to sail ASAP. This water leak will cost valuable time , not to mention money. The previous owner is a wanker for not fixing the problem before he put the boat on the market. If you must have the 27 , of which I have a 1981 who gets compliments ranging from" This is the largest,best equipped 27 anywhere, etc", 1/2 the bloody price of your offer and take off another 10% for the inconvenience. One more point to consider: what else has been neglected and will rear its ugly head when it is in the water? I can't fault you for your desire though, I fell in love with "LOTUS" the first time I saw her on a website and the romance continues!
You need to find another classic Hunter 272. 3 inches of water above the floorboards means 6-7 inches overall. The beautiful wood is now crap where the water has permeated. Also , you want to sail ASAP. This water leak will cost valuable time , not to mention money. The previous owner is a wanker for not fixing the problem before he put the boat on the market. If you must have the 27 , of which I have a 1981 who gets compliments ranging from" This is the largest,best equipped 27 anywhere, etc", 1/2 the bloody price of your offer and take off another 10% for the inconvenience. One more point to consider: what else has been neglected and will rear its ugly head when it is in the water? I can't fault you for your desire though, I fell in love with "LOTUS" the first time I saw her on a website and the romance continues!
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Jay Kent
I agree with the previous responses, but
I would like to address your question about "possible causes". Yes, the cockpit scuppers MIGHT be a problem, but, more than likely there are other things. As you stated that you also had water under the port bunk speaks to a possibility of a leak around a stanchion or a toe rail - or a leak from around an opening port (which, believe it or not, can end up under the portside settee without getting the cushions wet). Remember, too, that the water will run -and it amazing sometimes how far from the cause you find the water! We love our H-27, and know that if you end up owning this one or another, you will fall in love with her too.
I would like to address your question about "possible causes". Yes, the cockpit scuppers MIGHT be a problem, but, more than likely there are other things. As you stated that you also had water under the port bunk speaks to a possibility of a leak around a stanchion or a toe rail - or a leak from around an opening port (which, believe it or not, can end up under the portside settee without getting the cushions wet). Remember, too, that the water will run -and it amazing sometimes how far from the cause you find the water! We love our H-27, and know that if you end up owning this one or another, you will fall in love with her too.
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Bob Talley
H27 Water Leak
I had a 1979 H27 for about 15 years. The only water that ever came into that boat was if I left a hatch open, or a few drops from the stuffing box. Make sure you ave a surveyor or someone knowledgeable inspect this boat before paying for it.
I had a 1979 H27 for about 15 years. The only water that ever came into that boat was if I left a hatch open, or a few drops from the stuffing box. Make sure you ave a surveyor or someone knowledgeable inspect this boat before paying for it.
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Janette Slifko
Scupper drain hose disconnected
Check the scupper drain hose under the stern set. We had that hose disconnect and rain will go right down into the bilge ! You will be able to see the hoses most likely disconnected from the scupper drain. This is a easy fix once you can get your upper body into the stern set with your arms in front of you !
Check the scupper drain hose under the stern set. We had that hose disconnect and rain will go right down into the bilge ! You will be able to see the hoses most likely disconnected from the scupper drain. This is a easy fix once you can get your upper body into the stern set with your arms in front of you !
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Tim McCarty
The Scupper drains' a good start...
Congrats on your purchase. I've got an '82 272 which I love (although, lately, I've been doing a WHOLE lot of "updating"). My boat is sitting in a cradle right now, anxiously awaiting spring launch. I get water in the bilge all winter long. I'll bet, over the course of the whole winter, I pull about 5 gallons out. I've realized that most of the bilge water is attributed to rain water (summer too),and, even though I still can't find out where the h2o is coming, everyone seems to think it's related to the scupper hoses (one of the great mysteries of the universe). Good luck...it's STILL a great boat!
Congrats on your purchase. I've got an '82 272 which I love (although, lately, I've been doing a WHOLE lot of "updating"). My boat is sitting in a cradle right now, anxiously awaiting spring launch. I get water in the bilge all winter long. I'll bet, over the course of the whole winter, I pull about 5 gallons out. I've realized that most of the bilge water is attributed to rain water (summer too),and, even though I still can't find out where the h2o is coming, everyone seems to think it's related to the scupper hoses (one of the great mysteries of the universe). Good luck...it's STILL a great boat!
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Bruce Colwin
Had a similar problem
I had the a similar problem. After owning my 1979 H27 for three years, when I took a look at the boat after last winter, there were several inches of water above the floor boards. That has NEVER happened before or since. (I don't shrink wrap the boat, and there was alot of rain and snow). Also, water accumulated under the port berth, though that happens on occasion. I thought I had a leak from the stanchions, or the thruhull in the case of under the berth, but have never been able to trace it. Although it has never been a big problem. If I find out the cause, I'll let you know. (And would appreciate it if you could do the same). Best of luck.
I had the a similar problem. After owning my 1979 H27 for three years, when I took a look at the boat after last winter, there were several inches of water above the floor boards. That has NEVER happened before or since. (I don't shrink wrap the boat, and there was alot of rain and snow). Also, water accumulated under the port berth, though that happens on occasion. I thought I had a leak from the stanchions, or the thruhull in the case of under the berth, but have never been able to trace it. Although it has never been a big problem. If I find out the cause, I'll let you know. (And would appreciate it if you could do the same). Best of luck.
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