Water Temperature and Safety

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Jun 3, 2004
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Prindle 18, beach catamaran Chicago (North Edgebrook), IL
At what water temperature is it reasonable to not worry about the cold risks associated with a man overboard. Lake Michigan is about 40 degrees F, and while I have been sailing with grown ups, I have not taken the kids out due to fear that if they fell off, the cold would be deadly. Billy and Tommy are 7 and 6, they are swimmers, with life jackets.
 
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Here's a table...

Avoiding Hypothermia To convert Centigrade to Fahrenheit Divide by 5 Multiply by 9 Add 32 Example 20 degrees C divided by 5 = 4 4 x 9 = 36 add 32 = 68 degrees F Time matters critically Water Temp (F)Exhaustion/UnconsciousSurvival Time 32.5< 15 minutes45 minutes 32.5 > 40 15-30 minutes30-90 minutes 40 > 50 30-60 minutes1-3 hours 50 > 601-2 hours1-6 hours 60 > 70 2-7 hours3-indefinite 70 > 80IndefiniteIndefinite Source: Minnesota Sea Grant
 
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Gasp

“The Gasp Reflex Loss of breathing control begins the moment water makes contact with the skin, triggering a series of huge involuntary gasps for air. If your head is underwater when you gasp, you will immediately drown. Example: Oct. 1987, Water temperature: 41°F. Fit paddler, calm waters, folding double kayak with 36" beam. Found hanging upside down in his boat, having made no attempt to exit. Not dressed for immersion.” This is a quote from Atlantic Kayak Tours which has articles on cold water safety. If the water is real cold and your not dressed for going in, survival time is apparently quite short. In the spring the air is hot and water cold so it’s hard to wear protection for immersion, float jacket ,etc. The CG has info on this, with survival tips ,like being able to get back aboard quickly, wear a hat, huddle to retain heat, don't thrash about. From a chart we have it shows : 32-41 maybe 1 hr /41-50 maybe 2 hrs /50-59 maybe 3 hrs. There is a local(I think) saying ,The 50/50 rule: 50 degrees,50 yards to shore,50 percent chance of making it! Being clipped on and using safety netting ,so it’s difficult to get overboard ,seems like a good way to enjoy the part of the season were you wouldn’t want anyone in the water.
 
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Wait until July?

Maybe for young kids like that you may want to wait until the water is at least 60 ;). But, that is a long wait. You may want to spring for wetsuits for the kids. They could wear them on board and they could be used to extend the swimming season in Lake Michigan. There are numerous options and not all of them are uncomfortable. A wetsuit would certainly give a young kid a much better chance to survive an emersion, simply because it would extend the amount of time that they can survive and it would reduce the types of reactions that would happen if they fell in. Certainly, the best precaution is making sure they are safe on the boat. When I was much younger and learning to sail on a small lake in northern Illinois, I wore a wetsuit anytime I went out in any boat earlier than June and later than September. It didn't matter that there was no expectation that you could go in. Sailing a Hobie Cat meant you could end up in the lake at ANY moment (especially single-handed). db, Sauganash was my address for several years!
 
May 11, 2005
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Seidelman S37 Slidell, La.
Hal hit on it

The gasp reflex is for real. I have a friend who is a medic of sorts, and he told me it is not unheard of for the heart to just stop beating at the shock of very cold water. Couple of years ago I got tangled up in a crap trap, in January. The water temp was in the 50's, and it was necessary to get into the water to cut the mess off. Within a couple of minutes I was shaking so badly I couldn't do anything, and had a hard time hitting my mouth with a cup of coffee when I got back into the boat. 40 degree water would be deadly in a very short time. Wet suits would be a very good idea.
 
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