water in the bilge

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ScottD

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Oct 6, 2008
29
S2 9.2 Mark Twain Lake
So i discovered that my auto bilge float was not working and i accumulated quite a l lot of water in the bilge over several months of inactivity. Is this normal? Where does the water come from to accumulate so much? Should I be looking for other problems?
thanks
 

Tim R.

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May 27, 2004
3,626
Caliber 40 Long Range Cruiser Portland, Maine
- Do you have a keel stepped mast with internal halyards? Could be from rain.
- Condensation
- A leak(from above or below)
- Leaking water tank
- Stuffing box

Just not enough info to give an educated guess. You are going to have to do some investigating. I assume MT Lake is fresh water. If in salt, you could have narrowed it down a bit.

And fix the float switch!
 
Oct 26, 2008
6,265
Catalina 320 Barnegat, NJ
If you have a deck-stepped mast with a hole through the step, like mine, for wiring, you can get water.

Leaks will contribute a fair amount of water if it is a rainy period. The stuffing box is the most likely source. I had all those problems during a rainy period several seasons ago, when the float wasn't working, and I had to make sure I emptied the bilge at least once every few days before the water approached the floor boards.
 
Aug 26, 2006
122
Hunter H380 Palafox Pier Pensacola
Where is the auto bilge float

I have the same problem and assume that the float is sticking but I can't find the float switch. I have a Rule 1500 pump and a Sure Bail power source. Of all the mauals that came with the boat, I have a copy of a one page fax from Rule and nothing from Sure Bail.
 
Jan 22, 2008
280
Hunter 25_73-83 NORTH POINT MARINA/WINTHROP HA IL
water in bilge

So i discovered that my auto bilge float was not working and i accumulated quite a l lot of water in the bilge over several months of inactivity. Is this normal? Where does the water come from to accumulate so much? Should I be looking for other problems?
thanks

Scott, I pulled my halyards this Winter (keel stepped mast) and , in place, rove light messenger lines. We had the most water in the bilge since we've owned the boat. I would look to that first before exploring any further. Good luck and good sailing, Ron
 
Oct 26, 2005
2,057
- - Satellite Beach, FL.
If your bilge is situated in such a way that will allow it, mounting the bilge pump and switch on a bar or handle will allow easier access to both.
Sorry I don't have a pic of my old boats bilge to show this but I had both mounted on a piece of aluminum plate and the plate attached to a aluminum angle bar by use of another piece of angle. The upper end of the verticle bar had a hole drilled and a screw into the engine bed to keep it in place. Wires were zipped tied to the verticle and long enough to allow the pump and switch to be pulled up.
I did this because it was a deep bilge under the engine and the if the pump and switch were fixed to the floor of the bilge my arms were about 2' too short to be able to get to the pump and leaving it loose wasn't a good idea.
That was a Rule 750GPM meant to service the bilge and there was a 2000GPM mounted higher for emergencies and wired to a different battery.
I inherited a diaphram pump on one of my good old boats (35' Chris Craft Caribbean) and am convinced that is the best way to go by those things cost a ridiculous amount of money.
 

higgs

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Aug 24, 2005
3,708
Nassau 34 Olcott, NY
It has been my experience that rain water is often the culprit for water in the bilge. In a heavy rain, drainage channels at cockpit seat hatches often can't take the amount of water and will overflow going into the bilge.
 

MitchM

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Jan 20, 2005
1,031
Nauticat 321 pilothouse 32 Erie PA
you don't say how old your s2 9.2 is. if your bilge is getting water you ahve to eliminate all the possible sources 1 by 1: but i'd check for :
chainplates weeping
hatch seals leaking
ports leaking
seacocks leaking at places in the hull where they are bedded or at the hsoes attached to them:
any drilled holes in hull or deck leaking under deck ?(stanchion mounts, etc.)
stuffing box and strut log area (where your propeller shaft is entering the boat..)
on an older boat the caulking eventually dries out and pulls away from the holes drilled thru the deck for chainplates , stanchions etc...
also check for leaks from any hoses attached to seacocks. small leaks in the hose= a lot of h 2 0 in bilge if seacock is below the waterline. on my 5 year old boat my bilge was getting wet from a constant leak from the raw water supply hose into the head, which had abraded a small hole in itself where it ran thru a bulkhead. this drove me crazy. the bilge was pumped dry and all s eacocks shut every time we left the boat. everytime we were aboard putting all seacocks 'on' for engine, head, seawater washdown -- i got h 2 0 into the bilge..
i found the e asiest way to check each fitting for leaks was: start at the stern, tape a a piece of colored kleenex tissue --held with MMM blue painters tape--next to each of the suspect joints --then you watch for the kleenex to change color . if you are aboard in a huge rainstorm this is the best time to check. tape your telltales into palce then wait an hour, have a beer. in my case for the 25 year old boat i found: 1) ' weeping chainplates' both sides , running rain h 20 and green water during sailing straight into the bilge. these were tricky to find as you ahd to go into a cupboard to see the chainplates, and the water leaks were running down the inside of the hull in back of the palstic liners. 2) leaky stanchions at the thru bolts in the deck near the entry gates , and 3) a leaky main hatch. you should also check for water seeping in at stuffing box and the prop shaft exit in the hull. this leak is very important because if your shaft log is leaking badly , the leak can become catastrophic and you can lose your boat. so crawl into your engine compartment, follow the propshaft out of the engine to where i disappears into the shaft log to exit the boat. (for pictures of what this area looks like google PYI shaft seal. even though you probably don't have one of these on your boat. .) if you have any significant water weeping out of a fat rubber hoselike thing where the prop shaft exits the boat while your boat is a rest, you may have found the source of the leak. on my boat i have oldfashioned packing rings supplied with grease. a small amount of h 2 0 2 drips per minute comes onto the propshaft by design to lubricate it when i am running. but there are zero drips when the engine is not running. )
easiest way to check for propshaft leaks is to look a t the area while at rest then CAREFULLY check for drips with p shaft running ie engine on and running in neutral in the slip. (SAFETY WARNING : please DO NOT go near the running p shaft with your long hair or mardi gras beads or loose clothing sleeves, as you do NOT want yourself sucked into the p shaft or rotating around with the propshaft.. very dangerous..)

so let us know what you find...
 
Sep 15, 2009
6,243
S2 9.2a Fairhope Al
you may also check your rudder shaft stuffing box to make sure the packing is not leaking......

regards

woody
 
Jun 6, 2011
2
catalina 270 destin, fl
I have a 1975 Catalina 27 without an electric bilge pump. I think I have some type of leak coming into the bilge or keel box. I know it's salt water, so must be coming from the bottom. My guess is the keel bolts are leaking a little which is causing me to pail water every few days out of it. It is a slow leak but more than enough to become annoying. Any ideas of correcting this problem without pulling it out of the water? Can I try tightening the keel bolts and will that help?


Thanks
 
May 1, 2009
96
Hunter 30 Groton, CT
29.5 H floor rotted

Hi,
i'm looking at purchasing a '96 H29.5 .... tonight I discovered that the floor under the forward cabin[ access hole for speed and depth gauges] well its shot. The marine plywood rotted and its fiberglass peeling up from it... Is this common for these?
Second, I didn't locate the water storage. A concern cause like if you wish to winterize it maybe helpful to see the darn thing.
I hate to say it but a few of the hatches have cheap gaskets and the ports had cheap locks. likely a source of leaks
Thanks for any help
RR
 
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