Water filling the bowl

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Hi All, I just became the proud owner of a 1981 Catalina 30. It has a Raritan PH II manual head. While poking around yesterday I flipped the Y valve to direct discharge and opened the direct discharge seacock. The bowl began to fill. I closed the seacock and that stopped the water from filling the bowl. I pumped the bowl out and tried it again and the same thing happened. This setup does not have a loop or a vent, The hose goes strait from the Y valve to the seacock. What do you think would be letting the water into the bowl. Is there a valve that could be malfunctioning.
 
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Capt Bob

Parts List and Exploded view for PHII

I checked Raritan Engineering's website and found a parts list and exploded view for your Model Head. Their website is: http://www.raritaneng.com/ Most likely you need a rebuild kit to fix up an hold head. I generally do this every other year. Also check their FAQ area for: Q1 Why isn't the bowl emptying; it won't get rid of solids? Also of interest is: Q3 I have an older model PH toilet (pre-1981); can I still get parts? Hope this helps and smooth flushing.
 
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Peggie Hall/HeadMistress

Water will always seek its own level

There's no malfunction except most likely a worn out joker valve...but even a good one would only slow it down, it wouldn't prevent it. Rebuilding the toilet won't solve it either...the problem is just a basic law of physics at work: water always seeks its own level. If the bowl or any part of it is below the waterline with no loop in the line that's well above the waterline, water outside the boat will is gonna rise in the bowl to the waterline. So at the very least, you need a vented loop in the line that's at least 8-12" above the waterline at any angle of heel and new joker valve. If your toilet hasn't been rebuilt within at least 5 years, it should be...the rebuild kit includes a joker valve. The repair kit part # for PH II toilets built before 6/92 is PHRKII...for toilets built after 6/92 it's PHRKIIC. Since it's doubtful your toilet is original, I suggest you check with Raritan for the identifiers to know which kit to orider. The PH II should be rebuilt every 5 years, the joker valve should be replaced annually. If there's no loop in the discharge line, I doubt there's one in the intake either... which means that if the dry/flush valve is left open, water outside the boat will use that path to seek its own level inside the boat via the toilet bowl. So I strongly recommend you install one in the intake too. It does NOT go between the thru-hull and the pump...putting it there will prevent the pump from priming. It has to go between the pump and the bowl. I think you'll find the link below useful too.
 
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