VOR Downwind Sail Trim

Jan 2, 2017
765
O'Day & Islander 322 & 37 Scottsdale, AZ & Owls Head, ME
Watching the harbour race start to leg 9, I was surprised to see the A3 sail luffs were taut and the mainsails were sheeted in (as opposed to a free flying A sail and boom well out). They looked like they were sailing upwind under Code 0s! I guess the taut spinnaker luff makes for faster furling and the sheeted in main allows more air to get to the spinnaker and faster gybes. Very interesting.
 
May 17, 2004
6,145
Beneteau Oceanis 37 Havre de Grace
They looked like they were sailing upwind under Code 0s!
Their apparent wind probably was well forward. These boats move so fast that there's going to be a huge apparent wind effect in the wind speeds shown.
 
Jan 11, 2014
13,994
Sabre 362 113 Fair Haven, NY
Their apparent wind probably was well forward. These boats move so fast that there's going to be a huge apparent wind effect in the wind speeds shown.
Yep, once they get moving, even downwind, the apparent wind moves forward thus the sails look like they are trimmed for upwind work, because they are effectively sailing up wind.
 
Jan 2, 2017
765
O'Day & Islander 322 & 37 Scottsdale, AZ & Owls Head, ME
I knew apparent wind was well forward when the America’s Cup foiling cats were going 40 knots downwind, but are these monohulls going fast enough for that to happen?
 
Nov 8, 2010
11,386
Beneteau First 36.7 & 260 Minneapolis MN & Bayfield WI
In light airs the the VOR65’s zeros go upwind very well. It’s cut for that as the AP goes way forward. The halyard lock at the masttop keeps correct tension under immense pressure. It’s not your dad’s spinnaker.
 
Apr 16, 2017
841
Federation NCC-1701 Riverside
the apparent wind moves forward thus the sails look like they are trimmed for upwind work,
Ahhhh, this might explain why on most points of sail the cassette tape telltales on the upper shrouds lead aft.

I just assumed nature hated me and found a way to blow wind on my nose on all points of sail.
 
May 17, 2004
6,145
Beneteau Oceanis 37 Havre de Grace
Ahhhh, this might explain why on most points of sail the cassette tape telltales on the upper shrouds lead aft.

I just assumed nature hated me and found a way to blow wind on my nose on all points of sail.
Actually the wind near the shrouds is usually bent not just by apparent wind effects but also by the sails themselves. As the wind flows over the sails it will tend to follow their angle, appearing headed. The mast head wind vane is really the only way to accurately tell apparent wind without the effects of the sails.
 
Apr 16, 2017
841
Federation NCC-1701 Riverside
Actually the wind near the shrouds is usually bent not just by apparent wind effects but also by the sails themselves. As the wind flows over the sails it will tend to follow their angle, appearing headed. The mast head wind vane is really the only way to accurately tell apparent wind without the effects of the sails.
Good to know. Ill have to place one up on top then.