I have come across a Vision 32 that notes it was grounded on a shoal and then sailed home. Now priced for quick sail. I have yet to talk to the owner about the "damage" but the price is very attractive. Anybody feel like reminding me how much hidden damage might be there? I am not sure of the construction of this model either. What is the hull core? If the grounding punctured the outer skin but not the hull, how much seepage damage is possible? What about structural damage from trying to rip the keel off? By the way, the price is good enough to support serious repair investment but why fix a bad boat if you can get a good one for same price? Point is, maybe the damage looks worse than it is. Hope to go in with eyes wide open. Any thoughts - cautions offered are appreciated.
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Paul Akers
Survey, Survey, Survey
If you are at all serious, a word of caution...Don't do ANYTHING without a survey. This should be your first move.
If you are at all serious, a word of caution...Don't do ANYTHING without a survey. This should be your first move.
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Darrell Ivers
Survey for sure
Of course a survey is the only way to fly here. I did not intend to commit without a survey. However, in my planning and preparation I would like to find out what might be (possible worst case scenarios) and therefore asked those that might know.
Of course a survey is the only way to fly here. I did not intend to commit without a survey. However, in my planning and preparation I would like to find out what might be (possible worst case scenarios) and therefore asked those that might know.
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Pete
posible damage
you might want to get a good boat repair shop to chech out the hull and keel for damage and estimate a repair cost(your will do this anyway just do it before you make a offer)in addition to a good survey. You don't want any hidden cost or "extras' that could take the edge off the cost saving. Ihave to question why it is a "good deal" if it not a majot issue.Talk to some of the paople at the marina where it is at (people love to talk) maybe you can get a better idea of what happened!
you might want to get a good boat repair shop to chech out the hull and keel for damage and estimate a repair cost(your will do this anyway just do it before you make a offer)in addition to a good survey. You don't want any hidden cost or "extras' that could take the edge off the cost saving. Ihave to question why it is a "good deal" if it not a majot issue.Talk to some of the paople at the marina where it is at (people love to talk) maybe you can get a better idea of what happened!
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Paul Akers
Sail mag article in July
Yes , Darrell. I'm sure you would survey, but many of us will always automatically say that first. Especially in a situation like this. There's an old addage that says: "If it's too good to be true, then it isn't". There is a pretty decent article in Sail Mag (July) by Don Casey that goes over the basic 25 points that should be checked on initially viewing a used boat. Check that out for an idea before commissioning a surveyor.
Yes , Darrell. I'm sure you would survey, but many of us will always automatically say that first. Especially in a situation like this. There's an old addage that says: "If it's too good to be true, then it isn't". There is a pretty decent article in Sail Mag (July) by Don Casey that goes over the basic 25 points that should be checked on initially viewing a used boat. Check that out for an idea before commissioning a surveyor.
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J. Hrab
Repairs vs Sailing
One way to look at things is the difference between a "project" and sailing. Most of the time "projects" cost twice as much as planned and take two to three times the lenght of time and four times the worries and anxiety. A friend of mine bought a similar lenght boat for half the price I paid for my Hunter Vision 32. He spent a lot of money fixing his boat, finally it cost more than mine, (not counting his time). He spent a lot of time on my boat sailing while waiting for parts to be delivered. This is just a tought. But a Vision 32 is one hell of a boat.
One way to look at things is the difference between a "project" and sailing. Most of the time "projects" cost twice as much as planned and take two to three times the lenght of time and four times the worries and anxiety. A friend of mine bought a similar lenght boat for half the price I paid for my Hunter Vision 32. He spent a lot of money fixing his boat, finally it cost more than mine, (not counting his time). He spent a lot of time on my boat sailing while waiting for parts to be delivered. This is just a tought. But a Vision 32 is one hell of a boat.
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Darrell Ivers
Its over
Well I missed the boat (pun intended). I happened accross this boat later than someone else with the courage to take on the repairs. Thanks for all the notes. I have read and retained the article in Sail on inspecting a used boat, and I agree that the initial price to buy solid is repayed with a bunch of sailing while the project continues. (I have not had project boats but have had project houses - I'm certain there are similarities, good and bad). Anyway, for all who might care. The boat was run aground in the Bahamas and lay on her side for a couple weeks. With a hole through her hull above the water line but at this point - in the water. She was righted, pumped out (estimated 2 feet of water inside), and quickly repaired for a motor to Miami. Agent believes not only a full refinish but wiring etc etc required - he didn't see the survey. Sold for 20K cash. Thanks again for all the insight. I'll find my Hunter yet. By the way, I think this site is what has really sold me on Hunters. I have not found anything like it related to any other brand.
Well I missed the boat (pun intended). I happened accross this boat later than someone else with the courage to take on the repairs. Thanks for all the notes. I have read and retained the article in Sail on inspecting a used boat, and I agree that the initial price to buy solid is repayed with a bunch of sailing while the project continues. (I have not had project boats but have had project houses - I'm certain there are similarities, good and bad). Anyway, for all who might care. The boat was run aground in the Bahamas and lay on her side for a couple weeks. With a hole through her hull above the water line but at this point - in the water. She was righted, pumped out (estimated 2 feet of water inside), and quickly repaired for a motor to Miami. Agent believes not only a full refinish but wiring etc etc required - he didn't see the survey. Sold for 20K cash. Thanks again for all the insight. I'll find my Hunter yet. By the way, I think this site is what has really sold me on Hunters. I have not found anything like it related to any other brand.
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Rob Sherrill
Stick with a VISION
Too bad about missing the boat. Stay with the Vision 32 or 36 series. I have owned my Vision 32 for three months now and she is everything I had hoped and then some. My sailing friends who looked suspious at the unconventional rigging are sold. It's a great boat for someone who's looking for sailing made easy and with minimal rigging to maintain. Good luck in your Hunter quest. You have made the right choice.
Too bad about missing the boat. Stay with the Vision 32 or 36 series. I have owned my Vision 32 for three months now and she is everything I had hoped and then some. My sailing friends who looked suspious at the unconventional rigging are sold. It's a great boat for someone who's looking for sailing made easy and with minimal rigging to maintain. Good luck in your Hunter quest. You have made the right choice.
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