Vinegar use in warm climate ?????

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Jul 1, 1998
3,062
Hunter Legend 35 Poulsbo/Semiahmoo WA
Dehumidifier needs "auto defrost" to work

Joe - The problem with the non-autodefrost dehumidifiers is the coils tend to freeze up just when they reach the target 50%RH humidity. This is okay if one just wants to lower the humidity in your house on a humid day but in the case of combating mold one has to go a bit further, hence the need for auto defrost. Another helpful item is one of the electronic temperature-humidity meters so one can monitor what is happening away from the dehumidifier. The one we use is actually a digital barometer which is almost like a mini-weatherstation. We bought it at Captains in Seattle because their staff were really knowledgeable about what is a quality instrument. They do instrument repairs and testing so I trusted their advice. Of course, like everything electronic, the prices today are much lower and the quality is probably better. Ross's observations are interesting. In our location the solar vent would probably have difficulty during the winter because of the short, and dark, "days", but, during the summer when the days are long maybe that would work. Our summer days, though, usually generate between 70%RH and 85%RH inside the boat. Since this typical range is above 50%RH will the mold still grow? MoonSailer made a comment about leaks like leaky ports and that is certainly a consideration too. The boat has to be leak-free in order to keep it dry on the inside.
 

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Jun 15, 2004
14,693
Islander/Wayfairer 30 sail number 25 Perryville,Md.
John if the boat is well ventilated the relative humidity inside the boat will b

same as in the air outside. I am at 39 north and you can't be much above 49 north so our winter time day lengths are not very different. The more I consider this the more connections I make. Have you ever entered a drafty old cabin or barn that was musty smelling? But old closed up spring and well houses? Basements in old houses? Water vapor is lighter than air. H2o versus O2 and N2 thats why clouds float. Open the boat and the water vapor rises and leaves the boat.
 
Jun 5, 2004
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Catalina 30 MkII Foss Harbor Marina, Tacoma, WA
Keep it simple

Im in the soggy PNW too...I have a 1500 watt heater on low, one small fan and two dri-Z-airs...no mold. "Paraformaldehyde crystals (the gas that comes from it) will stun the spores" <--like i'd put THAT on my boat...I'd rather have mold. -ciao
 
Jun 7, 2007
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Pearson- 323- Mobile,Al
Paraformaldhyde is BAD STUFF

I work in a lab and sometimes we use paraformaldehyde. It is a very strong cancer causing agent!!!! Basically parafaormaldhyde is formaldehyde that is polymerised. It produces formaldehyde . Condensation will not put water into your boat!!!!! But if you have leaks that let water into your boat then you will have condensation of water as teh boat heats up and cools down. With good ventilation your boat will dry out during the day as the water evaporates and is carried out of the boat. Find and fix the leaks!!!! The only time we have noticed condensation in our boat has been during the winter and the water came from our breathing. A person breathing can lose a quart or so of water /day. Then heating some coffee makes more water and then the alcohol stove produces even more water...remember when you burn something water is always produced.
 
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Jerry Dykhuisen

Sta-Dry in South Florida

Sta-Dry in Florida is a waste of your money. In less than a week you'll have nothing but a bucket of water.
 
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John Nantz : Where did you get the small dehimidifier

thats a great idea!
 

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Jun 15, 2004
14,693
Islander/Wayfairer 30 sail number 25 Perryville,Md.
If the temperature of the sea water is lower than the dew

point then you can circulate sea water through a heat exchanger and dehumidify the air at just the cost of pumping some water.
 
Jul 1, 1998
3,062
Hunter Legend 35 Poulsbo/Semiahmoo WA
Bob (in Chicago): Dehumidifier source

Bob - just saw your question re source for dehumidifier. I got it at Home Depot a couple/three? years ago. I forget the brand but it is a 40-quart which is the "smallest" one I could find that had auto-defrost and a digital humidistat. It was made by Fedders under contract to another company who put their own name on it. From what I could tell it is the same innards as the Fedders and had a slightly different look on the outside but for about $30 more it came with a 5-year warranty vice the shorter one that Fedders had. Can you figure that one out??? Heck, Fedders made it! Size-wise, it isn't really "small", maybe in comparison to some other full-size home models maybe. On the west coast we don't use dehumidifiers nearly as much as back east so I don't know what the regular sizes are. Half or more of the size is for the 40-quart bucket so this is just useless wasted space. Now that I've had it for a while and it is working fine, I'm thinking about cutting of the lower half of the unit, it is made out of plastic, and just keeping the top half with the business-end. The humidistat is nice because it effectively shuts the unit off when the humidity drops below the set point and that saves a lot of electricity. If you're in Chicago I know they get high humidity so if there are problems with mold and mildew this is a nice way to go. The boat needs to be dry inside, though: no bilge water or deck/coachroof leaks and no open ports or hatches. You don't want to dehumidify the hemisphere.
 
Sep 24, 1999
1,511
Hunter H46LE Sausalito
Soleus

Last year I bought a Soleus unit, which is advertised to be "almost silent" and actually lives up to its press. Highly recommended in a liveaboard situation where the noise of conventional dehumidifiers becomes a bit obnoxious during the rainy season.
 
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