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gpd955

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Feb 22, 2006
1,164
Catalina 310 Cape May, NJ
Anyone have their VHF radios mounted at the pedestal. Just bought the SH 2150 and was considering mounting it in the cockpit since it has the AIS system, fog horn and hailer and it would be probably more useful at the helm. My radio is on the nav station (probably like most of yours) and I keep a portable radio at the helm. Here is my current configuration.
 

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Sep 29, 2008
1,944
Catalina 310 #185 Quantico
Wired Remote

I have a Standard Horizon down below with a wired remote microphone in the cockpit. Love it and the batteries are never dead.
 

gpd955

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Feb 22, 2006
1,164
Catalina 310 Cape May, NJ
I considered that. Is it permanently wired or do you plug it in every time you go out? I want to avoid having a wire in the cockpit.
 
Sep 29, 2008
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Catalina 310 #185 Quantico
Wired into a plug ...

I considered that. Is it permanently wired or do you plug it in every time you go out? I want to avoid having a wire in the cockpit.
that comes out in the NavPod. Every time I go out I just bring it up from below and plug it in. Only problem I have had is one time the Admiral sort of managed to plug it in and, ahem, did not quite get it quite aligned correctly. Not sure how that happened :confused: but I was able to get the pins straightened out. Definitely proved that the whole set up is pretty robust and somewhat admiral proof. :D

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...l4HgAQ&usg=AFQjCNEWwRa9J3_Vxjkk-G0HPYjmqQBBFg
 

Silvio

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Dec 1, 2010
61
Catalina 310 Solomons Island, MD
Similar to rpwila, I have a Standard Horizon GX 2150 mounted below with a fully functioning Remote Access Mic in the cockpit. I usually leave the RAM connected and only remove it for long term storage. On the GX 2150 the RAM has a small screen that displays the AIS and ind the RAM controls all functions of the radio. I should also add that wiring the radio's AIS into the chart plotter was very simple.
 

paulj

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Mar 16, 2007
1,361
Catalina 310 Anacortes,Wa
gpd955

I keep the handheld radio on me.


I'm sure you all know why ....so I do not start a seperate disscusion on this thread.


I do not have control of the vhf radio below the deck from the helm.



paulj :troll:
 

gpd955

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Feb 22, 2006
1,164
Catalina 310 Cape May, NJ
Silvio said:
On the GX 2150 the RAM has a small screen that displays the AIS and ind the RAM controls all functions of the radio. I should also add that wiring the radio's AIS into the chart plotter was very simple.
That answers my other burning question. I assumed it after reading the manual but it wasn't quite clear. Probably going to go the RAM route. Easiest and wont have to worry about taking the radio out when leaving the boat.

Paul, I alway have the portable radio at the helm and have it on my person when I go forward or down below. Will continue to do that even with remote access to the VHF but want to take full advantage of the AIS and GPS features and the full wattage of the new radio. You can never have enough backup!!!!
 

paulj

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Mar 16, 2007
1,361
Catalina 310 Anacortes,Wa
gpd955



I'm sure you have your MMSI number..............right?




paulj :troll:
 
Aug 24, 2009
444
Catalina 310 Sturgeon Bay, WI
I guess I am like most, the main radio below and I keep a handheld at the wheel. I got myself a Simrad HH33 this year. Is nice because it has a number of scan features, plus has DSC and (a big AND) has GPS built right it, so it gives me one more backup GPS (we have three on the boat) Sometimes just wish handhelds had more power to reach out. (the advantage of a remote mic on the main station.)
 
Aug 24, 2009
444
Catalina 310 Sturgeon Bay, WI
Yes I do have my number - the Boat US site worked well for that. Got set up as soon as the radio arrived, even before taking it up to the boat.....

Your right, having the system without registering your number is like calling 911 and not having caller ID or your address....
 

paulj

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Mar 16, 2007
1,361
Catalina 310 Anacortes,Wa
So now that all of you have the new radios up to date and working etc.



I would like to hear about your reflected power tests................






paulj :troll:
 
Aug 24, 2009
444
Catalina 310 Sturgeon Bay, WI
Well Paul - funny you should ask... I get bothered that, (because I have the lower station on also) I can hear traffic on the radio that my hand held does not pick up, and a 5W radio does not reach out like a 25W. It seemed some days when racing that I could not even reach the committee boat. So, (because you can't put a SWR in line on a hand held) we used a field strength meter to test. What I found out. 1. Standing helps as it gets me above the house structure and improves the signal. 2. Signal is better to the stern and sides of the boat then forward. (I believe the mast makes a difference) 3. When running scan and the GPS function you seem to run out of power in about 6-8 hours. (I know not a SWR question) 4. Handheld is great for bridge communication and ship to ship in the lanes. (we do have freighters sharing our water in Green Bay) 5. Best reception is with unit standing straight up, under the dodger but that puts it outside the reach of the person at the helm. 6. While I have my numbers the DSC locate system is not active on the great lakes as of yet, 7. Keep the antenna tight on the handheld or your signal drops to 0.
 

gpd955

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Feb 22, 2006
1,164
Catalina 310 Cape May, NJ
Installed the radio yesterday and will be working on the remote mic project over the winter. Didn't realize my chartplotter isn't compatible. Guess ill have to suck it up and buy a new one!

Now all I need is everyone's MMSI numbers so I can annoy you with the DSC calling feature!! :D
 

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Sep 29, 2008
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Huh?

... Didn't realize my chartplotter isn't compatible. ...
What do you mean. Doesn't the radio accept nmea 0183? What are the symptoms? On mine it would not work, would not work:confused:, would not work:confused:, and then out of desperation/frustration :cussing: I added a second ground at the base radio off the buss bar there (I had tied the ground in at the wheel to the GPS) and it worked like magic. :dance:
 

gpd955

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Feb 22, 2006
1,164
Catalina 310 Cape May, NJ
It's a Garmin 276c. Apparently it won't work with that series, so the paperwork says. Checked with the specs on Garmin and it says no also.
 
Jan 22, 2008
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Catalina 30 Mandeville, La.
Well Paul - funny you should ask... I get bothered that, (because I have the lower station on also) I can hear traffic on the radio that my hand held does not pick up, and a 5W radio does not reach out like a 25W. It seemed some days when racing that I could not even reach the committee boat. So, (because you can't put a SWR in line on a hand held) we used a field strength meter to test. What I found out. 1. Standing helps as it gets me above the house structure and improves the signal. 2. Signal is better to the stern and sides of the boat then forward. (I believe the mast makes a difference) 3. When running scan and the GPS function you seem to run out of power in about 6-8 hours. (I know not a SWR question) 4. Handheld is great for bridge communication and ship to ship in the lanes. (we do have freighters sharing our water in Green Bay) 5. Best reception is with unit standing straight up, under the dodger but that puts it outside the reach of the person at the helm. 6. While I have my numbers the DSC locate system is not active on the great lakes as of yet, 7. Keep the antenna tight on the handheld or your signal drops to 0.
The handheld's small ( compromise) antenna is the reason for lesser performance than the larger fixed mount. The power output isn't as big of a deal as the placement and type of antenna. If your handheld allows you to remove the antenna, you could run a coax jumper from it to the regular antenna connection at your fixed radio. This is assuming you have a better antenna, mounted higher. The handheld will perform dramatically better like this. It's a cheap fix that works great if you can deal with the cable extending out the top of the radio. Most handhelds will allow some type of wired, or wireless headset that would allow you to put the radio in a fixed position, with the big antenna connected and still have the convenience of using it without having to deal with that antenna cable sticking out the top. I wouldn't be concerned about the added cable loss from the jumper either. It is insignificant and the increase in performance from the regular antenna will far outweigh any cable loss issues.
 
Sep 29, 2008
1,944
Catalina 310 #185 Quantico
From the 276 manual

Page 88

How Can Garmin Help You with DSC?
To receive distress calls or position reports, you must have a DSCequipped
chartplotter as well as a VHF radio with DSC support.
During normal, non-emergency position report communication,
Channel 70 (156.525 MHz) has been set aside as the VHF/DSC
digital call channel.
For a distress call, press the MayDay button on the VHF radio. The
call transmits on an emergency channel with the MMSI number
attached to the call, if the receiver has DSC support. Any DSCequipped
mariner (on sea or land) within range can receive the call.
When the GPSMAP 276C is connected to a VHF with DSC support,
the GPS unit shows a call list, log, and a directory. Basic wiring
is required for the Garmin unit and VHF radio to send and receive
NMEA data from each other.


So, you want to connect the blue and black wires to the back of your radio (see also the attached diagram). I also attached the diagram from the SH 2150 manual. Pages 15-20 in the SH 2150 manual explain it and in the Garmin manual pages 88, 103 and 104.

All that being said, my experience with the newer Garmins has been less than stellar and for me I would not have one.
 

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