Vent System:

jbergman888 · Oct 12, 2013

thank you......To: albinvega@yahoogroups.comFrom: bestvega@...Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2013 23:44:57 +0000Subject: RE: [AlbinVega] Vent System: Mast snake

When I helped a friend with his mast we used a mast snake. I'm the inventor but you may use the system for a small royalty fee of 75,000 US dollars or 11 Euros. Bass fisherman use bullet shaped weights to fish rubber worms on the bottom of lakes. These weights have a hole through the center. Fishing line goes through the weight and gets tied to a hook. Worm goes on hook. I took about 10 of these weights and strung them together on a line with a loop on the aft end. Attach a messenger line to the loop. 1/8 inch or 2-3mm should do it. The weight goes down the mast. It's flexible like a snake, it has enough weight to carry the line down and the bullet shape takes it past obstructions. Probably should go through a hole drilled in the side of the mast instead of over the sheave.As far as using cable ties on the wires I used 4 ties put together as a square with the wires through the square. Pull the ties tight until you have a 4 legged spider with the wires going through it. Repeat every 18 inches or so. This will keep the wires centered in the mast. Walt, Lyric To: AlbinVega @...From: groundhogyh@...Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2013 15:04:19 -0700Subject: Re: [AlbinVega] Vent System:

Some complain about noise of wires slapping inside mast.
Some put a wire tie every 2 foot or so and leave the tails on. The random tails keep wires from
contacting the inside of mast.
gh

n4lbl · Oct 12, 2013

Has anyone else had a problem with rain leakage thru the mast and down the bulkhead?? What did you do about it??
To prevent noise my mast is filled with styrofoam peanuts (I don't know if that is clear to folks east of the Atlantic). They will have to go and I will use cable ties to stop the noise. I'm also unsure how I'll get them out of there.
Alan
minke V2505

groundhogyh · Oct 12, 2013

Search archives on leak stop. U make an inverted cone on wires as a roof to shed water out of mast base opening

winslowbuoy · Oct 12, 2013

The original mast steps have a large aperture in them. If yours has not how do you feed wires up the mast?Mike

winslowbuoy · Oct 13, 2013

My Boat is Series II and I have holes at the top for a masthead light cable and a VHF Antenna Cable. I'd always assumed they were original but now you've asked the question I realise I cant prove that.Mike

stevebirch2002 · Oct 13, 2013

Hi All

The holes at the top of the mast are where the
sheaves fit for the halyards, plenty of air flow so long as the mast hasnt been
filled with various concoctions to stop wire flapping noise (Annoying
noise)

There are drain holes at the base of the mast and
these are designed to take any water away that gets into the mast, these are on
each side of the mast (Port & Straboard) and often get clogged or
blocked.

Cheers

Steve B
From: Marcin Palacz
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 6:52 AM
To: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [AlbinVega] Vent System:

n4lbl · Oct 13, 2013

I've got two triangular notches, about 3/16 inch per side, P & S. The rain could have filtered thru the styrofoam peanuts and down the wires, then down the bulkhead.
The goal to prevent the leaking would be to keep the rainwater on the inner surface of the masr. The cable ties keeping the wiring centered should be a good start.
thanx,,,
Alan

pelagicasd · Oct 13, 2013

     I tried to send a reply on running wires but for some reason it did not get through. I'm trying again.  I was helping a friend run a VHF cable through his mast and we were having difficulty getting past the internal obstructions. I got around this by inventing the Mast Snake. Anyone can make one of these but as the inventor I have to insist on a royalty payment of 75,000 US dollars or 12 Euros whichever is worth more after our congress gets  done screwing up our economy. Bass fisherman use weights to fish rubber worms on the bottom of lakes. The weights are bullet shaped and have a hole through them. fisherman runs his line through the weight and ties it to the hook. Worm goes on the hook.     I took about 10 of these weights and strung them on a line with a loop on the aft end.  Attach a messenger line of about 1/8 inch or 2 to 3 mm and let it drop through the mast. The bullet shape, weight and flexibility allow it to "snake" past obstructions. Feel free to use this and you can skip the royalty.        As far as using cable ties to silence the wire in the mast try using 4 of them to make a square. Tighten the square until it looks like a 4 legged spider with the wire in the center. Repeat every 18 inches or so. When you pull the wire through the tails on the ties will keep it centered in the mast. When you run the messenger through use twice the length of the mast. When you pull the line back up you can use the cable ties to attach the line to the wire. Securing the line at the top of the mast will take a great deal of strain off of the wires.      When I did Lyric's mast it was down. We ran a length of solid copper wire through the mast from the top to the bottom and used that to pull a messenger line through. We used foam pipe insulation to cover the cables before we attached the "spiders". It has been completely silent since. Consider future masthead uses while you are doing this, if you don't have a masthead antenna for your VHF it is a recommended addition. Hope this has been helpful.                     Walt To: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.comFrom: steve@....Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2013 09:11:19 +0100Subject: Re: [AlbinVega] Vent System: 

Hi All
 
The holes at the top of the mast are where the
sheaves fit for the halyards, plenty of air flow so long as the mast hasnt been
filled with various concoctions to stop wire flapping noise (Annoying
noise)
 
There are drain holes at the base of the mast and
these are designed to take any water away that gets into the mast, these are on
each side of the mast (Port & Straboard) and often get clogged or
blocked.
 
Cheers
 
Steve B
From: Marcin Palacz
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 6:52 AM
To: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [AlbinVega] Vent System:
 

jbergman888 · Oct 13, 2013

thanks very much....To: albinvega@yahoogroups.comFrom: bestvega@...Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2013 15:45:44 +0000Subject: RE: [AlbinVega] Vent System:

I tried to send a reply on running wires but for some reason it did not get through. I'm trying again. I was helping a friend run a VHF cable through his mast and we were having difficulty getting past the internal obstructions. I got around this by inventing the Mast Snake. Anyone can make one of these but as the inventor I have to insist on a royalty payment of 75,000 US dollars or 12 Euros whichever is worth more after our congress gets done screwing up our economy. Bass fisherman use weights to fish rubber worms on the bottom of lakes. The weights are bullet shaped and have a hole through them. fisherman runs his line through the weight and ties it to the hook. Worm goes on the hook. I took about 10 of these weights and strung them on a line with a loop on the aft end. Attach a messenger line of about 1/8 inch or 2 to 3 mm and let it drop through the mast. The bullet shape, weight and flexibility allow it to "snake" past obstructions. Feel free to use this and you can skip the royalty. As far as using cable ties to silence the wire in the mast try using 4 of them to make a square. Tighten the square until it looks like a 4 legged spider with the wire in the center. Repeat every 18 inches or so. When you pull the wire through the tails on the ties will keep it centered in the mast. When you run the messenger through use twice the length of the mast. When you pull the line back up you can use the cable ties to attach the line to the wire. Securing the line at the top of the mast will take a great deal of strain off of the wires. When I did Lyric's mast it was down. We ran a length of solid copper wire through the mast from the top to the bottom and used that to pull a messenger line through. We used foam pipe insulation to cover the cables before we attached the "spiders". It has been completely silent since. Consider future masthead uses while you are doing this, if you don't have a masthead antenna for your VHF it is a recommended addition. Hope this has been helpful. Walt To: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.comFrom: steve@....Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2013 09:11:19 +0100Subject: Re: [AlbinVega] Vent System:

Hi All

The holes at the top of the mast are where the
sheaves fit for the halyards, plenty of air flow so long as the mast hasnt been
filled with various concoctions to stop wire flapping noise (Annoying
noise)

There are drain holes at the base of the mast and
these are designed to take any water away that gets into the mast, these are on
each side of the mast (Port & Straboard) and often get clogged or
blocked.

Cheers

Steve B
From: Marcin Palacz
Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2013 6:52 AM
To: AlbinVega@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [AlbinVega] Vent System:

dougpol1 · Oct 14, 2013

Good for you these kind of repairs make for great confidence and
comfort at sea. I hate to lay in a bunk and worry about something i
think may be a problem, it takes some fun out. doug
On 10/13/2013 07:46 PM,
lewills30@... wrote: