When I bought my Oday 19 this past spring it had the normal forestay and jib but also had an extra jib on a roller furling setup as an alternative foresail setup. My guess is previous owner who owned boat about 3 years never used it, but kept it as part of sail "inventory". I haven't tried the roller furling jib yet and don't want to lock myself in for the whole 2013 sailing season if it doesn't work well. But I'm tempted to attach both forestays (the normal one and the one thats part of the roller furl system) when I raise the mast this spring ... basically so I have the option and don't have to lower the mast to switch back and forth. It seems other than some extra friction in raising and lowering standard jib this could work. Appreciate any insights.
Two forestays on ODay 19?
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Not sure but I think the two would interfere with one another.I'll bet you would really appreciate that roller furling setup though.My advice is to try that first.I've been looking to upgrade my 19 to a furler but they are a bit pricey.
Also,it's not a big deal to step the mast on the 19 to make the swap.Good luck,Barry
Also,it's not a big deal to step the mast on the 19 to make the swap.Good luck,Barry
My friend Wayne sails a Seaward 22 and after he bought his CDI Roller Fuler he had some concerns about getting enough tension on the fore stay without bending his mast back, as his boat is a fractional rig. He added an extra fore stay from a tang at the top of his mast to a bracket that he made for his bow. I guess you could say that this set up can serve another purpose beside taking up the tension without bending the mast. If the fuler fore stay should part, the extra fore stay will keep the mast from falling over back on top of you.
What make is your furler? Is a roller reefing furler with a vinyl luff that fits over the fore stay like the CDI?
I've been told by Rudy at D&R Marine where I bought my furler that small boats such as ours can get away without the ball bearings in the drum. He recommended that the washer for the drum to turn on will work just as easy and never freeze up. It's only when you get into larger sloops that you would need the ball bearings under the furler drum due to the length and weight of the fuler and sail combined.
He told me that ball bearings have a tendency to corrode and freeze up if they're not cleaned and lubed regularly. Pulling hard on a drum control line could cause the fore stay to twist and break if the bearings aren't free to move. This is where your extra fore stay could come in handy.
I don't know but maybe the PO of your boat may have had something else in mind when he add this stay though.
If you have a good roller furler I recommend that you use it on this boat especially if it's a reefing furler. If you plan on trailering this boat, a furler can make mast raising/lowering difficult with that extra weight which can also be cumbersome. In this case, I recommend that you use a Gin Pole of some kind if your rig can allow it.
All I can say is I love my CDI Roller Furler. You can't beat a good furler.
Joe
What make is your furler? Is a roller reefing furler with a vinyl luff that fits over the fore stay like the CDI?
I've been told by Rudy at D&R Marine where I bought my furler that small boats such as ours can get away without the ball bearings in the drum. He recommended that the washer for the drum to turn on will work just as easy and never freeze up. It's only when you get into larger sloops that you would need the ball bearings under the furler drum due to the length and weight of the fuler and sail combined.
He told me that ball bearings have a tendency to corrode and freeze up if they're not cleaned and lubed regularly. Pulling hard on a drum control line could cause the fore stay to twist and break if the bearings aren't free to move. This is where your extra fore stay could come in handy.
I don't know but maybe the PO of your boat may have had something else in mind when he add this stay though.
If you have a good roller furler I recommend that you use it on this boat especially if it's a reefing furler. If you plan on trailering this boat, a furler can make mast raising/lowering difficult with that extra weight which can also be cumbersome. In this case, I recommend that you use a Gin Pole of some kind if your rig can allow it.
All I can say is I love my CDI Roller Furler. You can't beat a good furler.
Joe
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Thanks for replies. I have a feeling my furler is quite old and very basic ... no bearings. I will photograph it and post here in future. I am concerned about possible interference but thought maybe if I created a little separation where they attach at bow I can keep them from rubbing. I don't trailer the boat except to put in in spring and take out in fall. So I guess I'm spoiled and was trying to avoid re-lowering mast to make these changes. I've seen Joe's comments re the gin pole` and may think about that in future especially as my mast gets heavier with age. I am also now more inclined to set it up with roller furler only, based on your comments although I don't have confidence it will work and want to avoid a need to immediately redo. Bill
Here are a couple of shots I took of my roller furled. I would appreciate your thoughts on whether this is worth attaching and trying out when I go in water this Spring. Any tips re installation would also be appreciated. Bill
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That's the same type of furler that came stock on my boat. I didn't like it when I tried it and I took it off and gave it away to a friend of mine. It will furl the sail but it won't reef it. Also, unless your sail has a UV sun shield on it, I wouldn't leave the sail on it when your boat isn't being used.
I like the CDI Roller Reefing Furler that I have on there now.
The Schaeffer furller is attached to a small bale on the deck just before the bow stem chain plate and there should be a swivel type connector that is attached to you Jib Halyard shackle which is attached to the head board of your Jib sail. The Jib should have a wire luff built into it for this type of furler.
Try it out and see if you like it. You won't need to mess with your mast either way if you want to go to a conventional snap on Jib to your fore stay later.
I like the CDI Roller Reefing Furler that I have on there now.
The Schaeffer furller is attached to a small bale on the deck just before the bow stem chain plate and there should be a swivel type connector that is attached to you Jib Halyard shackle which is attached to the head board of your Jib sail. The Jib should have a wire luff built into it for this type of furler.
Try it out and see if you like it. You won't need to mess with your mast either way if you want to go to a conventional snap on Jib to your fore stay later.
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