Two completely different questions about Catalina 22 & teak!

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Aug 2, 2010
41
Catalina 22 Bottom of the ocean
Hi guys! First post!

I have two questions about the Catalina 22 specifically. First, I'm looking at buying one, and strangely, it has no teak inside of it. None. It's a '79 Pop-top. I don't know much about Catalinas, but every single one I've seen has teak inside. This seems to have white plastic/fiberglass? What do you make of this? (Clean boat huh?)





My second question, has anyone ever installed teak flooring into a 22? Either in the cockpit or in the cabin?

Thank you for reading,
RG
 
Jun 1, 2004
121
Catalina 22 PA
That looks great! The interior is really bright. Why would you want to change it? What's the asking price, and what type of upgrades does it have, such as perhaps roller furling?
 
Aug 2, 2010
41
Catalina 22 Bottom of the ocean
Mike, thank you for the reply. You're right, it does look good and why change it?

Here is the complete listing:

"For sale is my 1979 Catalina C22 swing keel pop-top cruiser. I purchased this boat last May and have loved every minute aboard. However, the opportunity to move into a bigger boat has come, and I am ready to make the switch. This is a solid boat, and I know the new owner will truly enjoy it.

So here is the run down on the boat. The hull is in good condition and was repainted by the previous owner. I believe the hull paint job is around 5 years old. The deck looks great and as you can tell from the pictures it is super clean and bright white. My boat has the forward hatch which really helps circulate air when you are sleeping aboard. All of the standing rigging was replaced around 5 years ago. All of the running rigging has also been replaced in the last 5 years. The main and jib halyards are led aft which makes single-handing a breeze. The jib sheets are like brand new and the main sheet is also new within the last 5 years. I also have the double-ended main sheet, so you have the option of cleating the main about midway on the boom or cleating it just above the tiller on the transom. All the cleats and blocks are harken and have been replaced in the last 5 years. the jib winches are in great shape and I have covers for both and one winch handle. Okay, working up, the mast and the boom are in very good condition. There is also a windex mounted on top of the mast. This year I also added a topping lift to make single handing even easier. I also added a jib downhaul which runs along the deck on the portside and makes it very easy to drop the jib or genoa on the foredeck in a hurry.

In the pictures you will notice the handrails on the top of the cabin are missing. I had them off when I took these pictures to refinish them. They are back on now and look great. I also refinished the tiller handle to match the handrails.

Now for the sails. I have three sails. The main is a C22 main and has one reefing point. It has the C22 diamond logo and the sail number printed on the sail and is in good shape. I have a hank-on genoa which I believe is about a 130% genoa. I am not exactly sure but that is very close, and it is also in good shape. Finally I have a Ullman off-shore hank-on jib that is less than 5 years old. I believe it is a 115%, but again I am not exactly sure. The jib is in great condition and is very stiff. It was purchased from Catalina Direct. This is the what I usually fly up front. I have bags for both the jib and the genny, and I leave the main on the boom under a sail cover.

Accessories: I am letting this boat go with basically everything you will need to get started. I have several fenders, dock lines, extra line, life jackets, and spare parts that all go with the boat. In addition to the solid wood hatch boards, I also have a set of screened hatch boards. These are great to put in when you are sleeping aboard. Breeze comes in and the bugs stay out! I have a three step swim ladder that stays, extra straps and bungee cords, and a 15 watt solar panel that will go with the boat. There is also a fairly new cobra marine radio and a suunto compass mounted in the cockpit. Also included is two anchors with rode. I have an 8lb danforth that hangs on the bow pulpit and a 15lb navy anchor that I keep below. Both have 6ft of chain and 100ft of rode. I have one battery and that stays as well. Its a deep cycle marine battery and holds charge well especially with the solar panel. I usually only use it to power the cabin lights and the nav lights at night.

Everything on the inside of the boat stays too. All the cushions are in great shape and appear to be less than 10 years old. My boat has the sliding galley which is very nice. The two burner propane stove will stay with the boat and is great for overnighters. The sink drain connnects to the scupper drain hose and drains through the bottom of the boat. There is a 5 gallon water tank and hand pump at the sink. The nice thing about the sliding galley is that it slides back underneath the starboard side of the cockpit to make more space below. You can also remove it altogether if you dont plan on using it.

The outboard is a 5hp Briggs and Stratton. It runs well and it was purchased new in 2005. This year I replaced all of the fuel lines, new spark plug, carb cleaning, and an oil change and it has been running perfectly. It comes with a 3 gallon fuel tank. The motor mount is in good shape and I also put on a new teak mounting plate last season.

Overall this an excellent boat. Everything is in good or great condition, and this boat is ready to sail. Oh, I also have a trailer for the boat. I will admit it is not the best looking trailer, but I used it to haul the boat 12 hours on the interstate and it did just fine. I typically just use it to haul in and out at the beginning and end of the season. The trailer goes with the boat."

He is asking $3000. Do you think that is fair? I feel like it's kind of high, but it's so clean, and it doesn't "need a bottom job" or anything like that.
 

Clark

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Jun 30, 2004
886
Hunter 280 Lake Guntersville, AL
Make sure you check (or have checked) the swing keel mechanicals and deck coring. If those are sound the price looks pretty good to me - except for the B&S outboard. They sound like a lawn mower - literally.
 
Feb 26, 2004
23,047
Catalina 34 224 Maple Bay, BC, Canada
It looks like somebody just painted the interior teak. Bummer, but bright.
 
Aug 2, 2010
41
Catalina 22 Bottom of the ocean
Ah, that's exactly what it is!

I did some research, and apparently if the person who painted the teak varnished it ahead of time then it is very easy to strip off. If they didn't, then it can be a PITA.

Depending on how it looks in person, I may leave it all alone or try to refinish the teak. It depends on how bored I am. My D-I-Ys are like black holes of failure though, so I'll probably leave it alone :)
 
Apr 26, 2010
434
catalina 22 lake tillery NC
I have a feeling that someone may have changed the teak to plastic, no up keep and yes brite. I kinda like it. Sounds like a good deal to me, but as stated before check that keel mechanics. Alan
 
Feb 26, 2004
23,047
Catalina 34 224 Maple Bay, BC, Canada
I thought that too, originally, but I looked at the compression post and the drawer, and all the wood is where it's supposed to be. And the step is blue as are the insides of the companionway.
 
Jul 16, 2010
37
Catalina C22 Lake Travis / Port Aransas
Looks like a good deal to me. Bought my for $1000 and looks like I will spend about another $2000 rerigging, cleaning and repairing. It should be in about the same condition as this boat, except the rigging will be new. Guess the only other thing would be to look at the hull closely to make sure the paint isn't hiding any blisters or stress cracks and as mentioned before, check the swing keel components for age and stability.
 
Aug 2, 2010
41
Catalina 22 Bottom of the ocean
Thank you guys again for the information. Good news on the swing keel! The guy writes:

I forgot to mention this in the listing, but the cat22 swing keels are kind of notorious for something failing with the swing keel. Before I purchased her, the previous owner had the cable replaced and a new winch installed for preventative care, so you should have zero problems with the keel. I also replaced the keel hanger bolts last summer just to be safe and this is another common failure point.
That gives me a good feeling inside :)
 
Oct 1, 2006
81
Catalina 22 Lake Conroe
Beautiful vessel and great price is all else is in good working order. I agree with the B & S Outboard. I've heard one and they are very loud. Good luck.
 
Aug 12, 2010
46
Catalina C22 Lake Erie
Teak?

I have an '88 C22. I never thought of the interior wood being teak. Maybe the wood covers on the floor are. Most of it appears to be cheap veneer covered wood or just wood w/ a dull finish. The interior looks nice, maybe put up some curtains or shades. Most people send little time below anyways.
 
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