Trip report - The big tow home

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Nov 8, 2010
11,386
Beneteau First 36.7 & 260 Minneapolis MN & Bayfield WI
Last weekend we headed down to Arkansas to get Blue J and bring her back to Minnesota. Beyond it being a 1000 miles each way, I was fretting because of several potential issues that would have to be sorted out in real-time, several of them that could end up being show-stoppers. To wit:

O I had to order from the UK four very special trailer tires 12 inch and rated 1900lbs EACH. Had to have them mounted
O Trailer brakes needed work
O I had to hire a diver to swap the keel lifting mechanism to get the keel up
O The pads of the trailer were in the wrong place.
O We needed to float-on load the boat onto the trailer, adjusting the pads at the same time
O We had to lower the trailer into the water via a long tow strap to get in deep enough
O We had to lower the mast without a pole.
O 1000 mile tow back, through the Ozarks.

BlueJ is a Beneteau First 260. We bought her last fall and this is the first time we will have moved her or had her out of the water. She displaces 5000lbs and really pushes the limits of what a trailer-able sailboat is. I call her 'owner movable'.

Keep in mind its just the two of us.

We left last Thursday and arrived at DeGray Lake Friday afternoon. It was raining but happily the weather was fine from that point on. And also happily things kept getting check off the list, and it seemed we would be out clean on Sunday morning. But that was not to be. The pads took HOURS to adjust, over several cold, painful sessions. And the ramp was a 7 mile drive/ half hour sail from the slip. We were ready to try again on Sunday, but small craft warning kept us waiting until Monday. Cold and clear and calm, its back into the water for me at 7AM, one last time adjusting the pads. Looking good we think. Out she comes, basically OK but shes sitting too low at the nose. Back in, float, and move the pads. Pull again. Perfect. Finally!

First time I get to the the boat out of the water. The old paint has lost ALL of its biocide; you can watch stuff grow on the bottom. I'm amazing how flat the after sections are under the cockpit. This is going to be a fun summer.

Now on to the mast. Deck stepped and hinged, but 36 feet long and 2/3s of it hang off the transom when you lower it. I made a A-frame beforehand, and lashed it to the stanchion bases with some Dyneema. This allowed me to keep leverage on the mast as I lowered it with the spin halyard. Worked like a charm. Finally can breath normally. Now to button her up and hit the road! After about 2 miles its clear we have to make a change. Not enough tongue weight, and the boat has a huge case of the speed wobbles. Everything; batteries, all liquids, provisions, end up in the vee. Now we are better. Anything over 60 is dicey, but it tracks true and the truck is just fine. Even in the Ozarks at night. We spend the night after 5 hours of driving in Joplin MO, and drive all the next day, hitting Minneapolis at 6PM. The truck pulled like a champ and still averaged 13.0 MPG for the trip home. Not bad!

Here's Blue J at her arrival at Hooper's Yacht Service, where she will pick up a new coat of Micron Extra. In blue this time.



When we pulled out of DeGray I said I'd never do this again. Now I'm thinking it was not really all THAT bad, and might bring the boat back down next fall. Crazy stuff, this sailing is.
 
Oct 14, 2005
2,191
1983 Hunter H34 North East, MD
Jackdaw...

We have one of those in our Club fleet. Seems to sail very well for the young couple that owns it. Good luck with yours back in Minn.
 
Nov 8, 2010
11,386
Beneteau First 36.7 & 260 Minneapolis MN & Bayfield WI
We have one of those in our Club fleet. Seems to sail very well for the young couple that owns it. Good luck with yours back in Minn.
Dan,

Really?? A First 260 and not a 210? Although the 260 is much bigger they look the same. I thought I have the only one in the USA. They were never sold here; BlueJ was brought over from France. If it is a 260 I would love to be put in contact with them. Thanks!
 
Oct 26, 2008
6,432
Catalina 320 Barnegat, NJ
Nice road trip ... I like Arkansas, the terrain is similar to mountains (hills) in northern NJ, but far less congested!

Where are you going to sail that little beauty? Are you going to keep her on the St. Croix there or move her to one of the larger lakes? I've been on a canoe on the St. Croix further downstream ... it was just a little bouncy. We came out of one of the smaller streams on the Wisconsin side. My brother lived in River Falls many years ago.
 
Oct 26, 2008
6,432
Catalina 320 Barnegat, NJ
There was a First 210 (twin rudders?) moored next to us for a few years on Lake Hopatcong, but I never saw anybody sail it. It hasn't been there for years now. I always wanted to have an opportunity but I never saw anybody on it for at least 2 summers and then it never re-appeared.
 
Nov 8, 2010
11,386
Beneteau First 36.7 & 260 Minneapolis MN & Bayfield WI
Scott,
Yea we really loved being at DeGray Lake. In many ways is much like the Apostle Islands in Lake Superior where we keep the bigger 36.7.

Yes both he First 210 and 260 have dual rudders. Because the transom is so wide and flat, (think VOR) you need a way to keep rudder in the water when heeled. The 210s are very desirable boats. Its only by short list of buy-first ask-questions-later! ;^)


 
Oct 26, 2008
6,432
Catalina 320 Barnegat, NJ
I'll bet it is nice! That is one of the more scenic valleys in the country as far as I'm concerned ... not quite like the Hudson near Bear Mountain, but similar in some ways. We skied Wild Mtn several times years ago. They made the best early-season snow anywhere! The terrain is pretty good for midwest, too. I think I heard that the owners there are (were) dealers in snow-making equipment.
 

Gunni

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Mar 16, 2010
5,937
Beneteau 411 Oceanis Annapolis
I've been bugging Beneteau for years to offer a version of the cassette rudder fitment for the big boats. They would make a great emergency rudder, and if done right would be easily stowable. Just a couple of gudgeons left on the transom. bonjour!
 
Nov 6, 2006
10,219
Hunter 34 Mandeville Louisiana
Whew.. Glad you guys made it without any major incidents.. good job on improvising the mast lowering device..
 
Jun 29, 2010
1,287
Beneteau First 235 Lake Minnetonka, MN
Thx!

How is the bulkhead coming? Getting ready to splash soon?
Things are coming along. Not as quickly as I would like, I'll send ya an e-mail this evening after I get home. Some "factory spec" parts aren't quite matching...... :confused:
 

JohnS

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Sep 25, 2008
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Islander (Wayfarer/McGlasson) 32 St Georges Harbor
After about 2 miles its clear we have to make a change. Not enough tongue weight, and the boat has a huge case of the speed wobbles. Everything; batteries, all liquids, provisions, end up in the vee. Now we are better. Anything over 60 is dicey, but it tracks true and the truck is just fine.

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When we pulled out of DeGray I said I'd never do this again. Now I'm thinking it was not really all THAT bad, and might bring the boat back down next fall. Crazy stuff, this sailing is.
Crongrats on a successful transport. If you do decide to tow her any distance again, you might want to work on that tongue weight issue. Just looking at the picture, it appears to me she's sitting too far aft w/ respect to the axles. It doesn't look like there's much more room forward on the trailer. (And you'd probably have to re-adjust the pads.) Can the axles be moved aft on the trailer frame? Could make for a more relaxing 1000 miles.
 
Nov 8, 2010
11,386
Beneteau First 36.7 & 260 Minneapolis MN & Bayfield WI
Crongrats on a successful transport. If you do decide to tow her any distance again, you might want to work on that tongue weight issue. Just looking at the picture, it appears to me she's sitting too far aft w/ respect to the axles. It doesn't look like there's much more room forward on the trailer. (And you'd probably have to re-adjust the pads.) Can the axles be moved aft on the trailer frame? Could make for a more relaxing 1000 miles.
Good call. The axle assembly is held onto the frame with a 6 U bolt loops. It is in the 'factory' position, but that might have been set more for balance as the trailer was used by the OO as yard transport and shipping cradle. As it was, the tongue weight indicator built into the hitch was JUST into the green OK zone. The keel stop can move too. I'm planning to move both back a few inches the next time shes off!
 
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