Traveler Upgrade form 4-1 to 6-1?

Apr 5, 2009
3,131
Catalina '88 C30 tr/bs Oak Harbor, WA
Are they steel or Delrin?

For Delrin that's actually not a bad price. For steel should be about 1/2 that, I think.
The are Torlon on the top raceways which are the ones under high load from the trimming of the main sheet. On the bottom raceways, they use Delrin.
 
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jviss

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Feb 5, 2004
7,089
Tartan 3800 20 Westport, MA
As an aside, I hate these designs with loose ball bearings. :)

My winch handle grips are apparently so, with 12 on top and 12 on the bottom of each grip. 'Though they are to be oiled, I have no idea, without some kind of fixture, how one would hold those balls in place as you assembled the unit. There was a "trick" that, I think, Schaefer recommended, to hold the balls in place with shaving cream which one would rinse out once assembled, but then, how to oil them? Frustrating. But then, I am not charged with designing these things, and figuring out how to do it with maintenance in mind. :)
 

Ward H

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Nov 7, 2011
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Catalina 30 Mk II Cedar Creek, Bayville NJ
Wow, that is a different response than I have ever gotten form Garhauer but I always dealt with Guido.
Here is the email they sent me a couple of weeks ago. I need (126) ea. of ¼" Delrin and Torlon balls. I will order some extras. If you do not buy the track section, they "can" be loaded on the boat using the traveler track, but it is more difficult because you do not have gravity helping to fill the top side.
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Elizabeth forwarded my email to Mark who replied that I needed the MT-2 upgrade. Looks like you already have it. Mark sounded very rushed on the phone. It was like pulling teeth to get that info. It was a Monday, maybe not the best time to call.
 
Apr 5, 2009
3,131
Catalina '88 C30 tr/bs Oak Harbor, WA
As an aside, I hate these designs with loose ball bearings. :)

My winch handle grips are apparently so, with 12 on top and 12 on the bottom of each grip. 'Though they are to be oiled, I have no idea, without some kind of fixture, how one would hold those balls in place as you assembled the unit. There was a "trick" that, I think, Schaefer recommended, to hold the balls in place with shaving cream which one would rinse out once assembled, but then, how to oil them? Frustrating. But then, I am not charged with designing these things, and figuring out how to do it with maintenance in mind. :)
Fortunately, on our Garhauer recirculating ball bearings, they use all Delrin and Torlon which are non-corroding and self-lubricating. The only maintenance required is an occasional freshwater rinse until you get ball failure which is a gradual increase in friction. At that time the car is removed, and a new set of balls are loaded with a loading track.
 
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Apr 5, 2009
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Catalina '88 C30 tr/bs Oak Harbor, WA
Elizabeth forwarded my email to Mark who replied that I needed the MT-2 upgrade. Looks like you already have it. Mark sounded very rushed on the phone. It was like pulling teeth to get that info. It was a Monday, maybe not the best time to call.
My traveler system is what came from the factory except that Guido sold me an extra sheave and separator plate for each side which allowed me to increase the purchase by one. I have replaced the balls once and may need to do it again soon.
 
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jviss

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Feb 5, 2004
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Tartan 3800 20 Westport, MA
Fortunately, on our Garhauer recirculating ball bearings, they use all Delrin and Torlon which are non-corroding and self-lubricating. The only maintenance required is an occasional freshwater rinse until you get ball failure which is a gradual increase in friction. At that time the car is removed, and a new set of balls are loaded with a loading track.
How often must one do that?
 

RoyS

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Jun 3, 2012
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Hunter 33 Steamboat Wharf, Hull, MA
At $0.11 each, why count? Order more than you need and no down time.