transom mounted swim step for Cal 34

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JB

Run-Away renovations

Hi Fedor, My Cal 34 is a 1967 series 1, hull #65. I didn't know when I got it there was a series 2&3. It was a gift. You might say a gift that keeps on taking. Mine is a low aspect rig which was designed to fit the racing rules of that time. It was terribly neglected and had to be completely restored. See pics @ the Yahoo Cal Yachts web site photo albums titled "Money, Money, Money, Money" Also being a new sailor, I put on all new halyards rope to wire because I didn't know any different. and the rigger said the bushings at the top of the mast were for wire?? Plus all new Ullman sails w/ 135 genoa. Altho my mast is totally free of corrosion after 40 years because there were no holes drilled in it. It looked like new. Had I known anything I probably would have opted for a new tall mast with shorter boom. The 2's and 3's have a two ft taller mast and a four ft shorter boom. Altho the boat to beat here in all the cruiser races in this huge Marina is a series 1 low aspect rig exactly like mine (not as nice of course) owned by a 75 yr old experienced sailor who bought it new in 1967, and believe it or not has never changed the rigging. The only boat that gives him a consistant race is a new 45 foot racing hull Beneteau, and he also has beaten it. I have no intention of racing, to me that's kinda anti sailing I'm more of a kick back have a glass of wine with a cute lady. Put on my Simrad auto pilot,GPS and head to Catalina sailor. Your interior is completely different. I have a huge sette and table on the port side that will literally seat 8 comfortably. It's like a huge restaurant booth. It will convert into a queen sized bed. The entire starboard side is the galley with gimbled 3 burner/oven stove, sink and 6' long counter. Altho the p.o. had cut a large section out and installed a 5' high propane/dc/ac/ refrigerator. which I promptly removed and now theres room for a stacked washer and dryer if I wanted it. I have a smaller fridge and micro wave there. It has very wide/long quarter berths aft under the cockpit that are as large as twin beds. The bilge is about 5' deep, approx 12" at the widest points. Starts at the bottom of the steps and goes almost all the way to the forward bulkhead getting shallow towards the bulkhead. With 3 access covers. Doesn't have much room after the bilge pump hoses. One auto and one manuel. I'm told that the hulls of the 1,2,and 3 are identical. The cabin top and deck are different. Your companionway is offset starboard to compensate for the galley. Mine has winch islands, your deck goes straight back to the stern. My companion way goes almost to the cockpit floor, which makes my cockpit huge. Yours is shortened and cockpit raised in the front ala Cal 40. better for ocean crossings. And you have an anchor locker hatch. Mine is a flat deck, great for laying out on but not anchor convienient. I like your layout better, but what can I say it was a gift,(That I've spent $50,000 on) but there's plenty of room, and people seem to enjoy sitting around in this big booth, sorta like people who gather in the kitchen at parties. Oh yes, you have a walk-in head, my head is part of the huge vberth cabin which can be closed off. I have both a dresser/drawers with a big flat screen tv/dvd player on top to port and a tall enclosed hanging closet with room on top for pics etc. to starboard. I think your walk-in head eliminated the room for the dresser/drawers. I love the vberth it's really a large walk-in cabin and huge bed. A friend has an 80's Hunter 34 and being tall like me he can't even fit in the vberth if he tries to sit up in it he hits his head. Even when he converts his couch in his main cabin he's too tall. He can stretch out in my quarter berths and vberth. The farthest I will probably ever take mine is Mexico, and the Sea of Cortez. I've been caught in sea's here that were double small craft warning wind 30-40 knts and 15-20 swells and it handled it better than I did. I don't plan any ocean crossings, I'm not as brave as you. I have a friend (who started me sailing and got me this boat) with the Cal 40 "Ralphie". He won the 05 Transpac 11 hours ahead of the next boat. If I feel like crossing an ocean , I'll go with him. And he knows how to navigate. Still waiting for the translation of your picture captions at Picasa. JB
 
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Bilge on Cal 34 - lots of space is wasted

Hi JB and all, I've read your comparison of Cal Mk I to Cal Mk II and III with interest. It seems to me now that Mk III interior is more convenient for life under way (I love my pilot berth, just next to the chart table - it is also a convenient spot to snooze for 10 minutes in sitting position :) There are some things I do not like about her interior: 1) engine access 2) bilge Bilge, in particular, seems like a good spot for storing extra water tanks. Has anybody done it?
 

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on doing that if we kept her.....The deep bilge keeps the engine dry when water gets in the boat, however as you said alot of wasted space. I was considering having a water tank made custom for this area and using the front tank area for a larger holding tank. Also, I was thinking about additional storage bins for this bilge area in addition to the water tank, however I would keep the deepness of the bilge. I was planning on a water tank that would be aft of the lead basast in the keel going from the cabin sole to the bottom of the bilge, then have another storage bin fabricated that would be aft of the water tank, however would not go to the bottom leaving a space below for the bilge water to go and still keep the engine and floor boards dry. It is one of the things I miss about her. Also, with the engine, I was getting ready to redo the sink and stairs so that they would be completely removable leaving the entire rear of the engine exposed. The front of the engine, which is aft still would be difficult to get to and only from the cockpit storage lazarret. I was going to cut the wall and put a new much larger sliding door on the starboard side in the pilot berth facing the engine for better access there..... Changing the mounts and exhaust system was a bitch! Good Luck Greg
 
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Cal 34 bilge

Hi Fedor, Well I'll have to take another look at my bilge. Don't remember having all that room u both are talking about. The access hatch directly in front of the stairs is the only one I open frequently to turn on the water intake for the engine. There the bilge is deep but not very wide, approx. a foot. Then there's the through hull and pipes where the engine water comes in and out, plus bilge pump hoses and there doesn't seem to be much room for water tanks. The middle access hatch is under the sette seat. I have two batteries there which take up a lot of room. And sit on top of the middle bilge access hatch. When I got the boat it also had a hotwater heater there. If I remember correctly (I didn't change it the electrician did). It may have had only one battery and the hot water heater. There isn't enough room for a hotwater heater there now. The electrician tried to talk me into putting the batteries(6 golf carts) right in the forward shallow bilge space, but I didn't think it was a good idea because thats where the water that might get into the boat would run down into the lower bilge. By the way I opted for just two deep cycle batteries, One starting battery, and one for the house. I didn't want all the weight of golf cart batteries. and I don't intend going for long cruises. My boat has the atomic 4 engine, since there's no galley in the way, the front stairs are removable along with the entire back wall to expose the engine. Lots of room on both sides, and tho not as easy, front of engine can be accessed. It's a rebuilt A4 and runs good. It's much quieter and smoother running than a diesel (no vibration). Mine will motor in normal seas at 7 knts. My mechanic who rebuilt and installed the A4 tells me when the engine needs to be rebuilt again he will pull it out and install a 3 cylnder Koboto diesel that is even smaller than the A4. It will give me even more room around the engine, but puts out the same horsepower and much more torque. That might be a solution for your Westerbeke which is huge, and puts out about the same horsepower/torque as the Koboto. He just did the conversion on another Cal 34 here. If I can get a ride on it, I will let u know how it motors. Still waiting for the caption translations at Picasa. JB
 
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