I am thinking of buying an ODay 22 which is now on a trailer. I would like to keep it on the trailer and launch and retrieve as I need. The boat looks very big. I have a fairly deep launching ramp. Does anybody do this with a boat of this size?
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mast raising system
get a mast raising system if it does not already have one. I have a '79 oday 22. It trailes fine but takes some energy to set up. I usually leave it in the water for a few days when I launch and set it up.(I dont have a raising system)
get a mast raising system if it does not already have one. I have a '79 oday 22. It trailes fine but takes some energy to set up. I usually leave it in the water for a few days when I launch and set it up.(I dont have a raising system)
Trailering an O'Day 22
Is the trailer a flat bunk trailer that you'd have to swamp and float her off? Roller trailers are much easier for launching and retrieving. As far a mast raising and lowering goes; you could build a Gin Pole out of wood or pipe and use either a block and tackle or a small boat winch to raise/lower the mast. Check out a book by Bruce Bingham entitled, "The Sailor's Sketchbook". There's a few pages on various mast raising Gin Poles. An easier boat for trailering would be an O'Day Mariner, but I trailered an O'Day 222 for about eight years and I've since gone from the roller trailer to one with flat bunks. Now, I just leave it in the water on a mooring. One of the biggest problems with bunk trailers is; when you're loading the boat on the trailer, the trailer is lower in the water than the boat, which is still floating, and although the bow of the boat is winched up tight against the bow roller, when you pull the boat and trailer up the ramp, the bow is now about 2" or more away from the bow roller on the winch stanchion. This is a very common problem. A friend of mine has come up with a solution to this problem by installing a small hydraulic bottle jack with a boat roller attached to it. He places it on his trailer under the bow of the boat and jacks the bow up to the right position while it's still in the water. It works.
Is the trailer a flat bunk trailer that you'd have to swamp and float her off? Roller trailers are much easier for launching and retrieving. As far a mast raising and lowering goes; you could build a Gin Pole out of wood or pipe and use either a block and tackle or a small boat winch to raise/lower the mast. Check out a book by Bruce Bingham entitled, "The Sailor's Sketchbook". There's a few pages on various mast raising Gin Poles. An easier boat for trailering would be an O'Day Mariner, but I trailered an O'Day 222 for about eight years and I've since gone from the roller trailer to one with flat bunks. Now, I just leave it in the water on a mooring. One of the biggest problems with bunk trailers is; when you're loading the boat on the trailer, the trailer is lower in the water than the boat, which is still floating, and although the bow of the boat is winched up tight against the bow roller, when you pull the boat and trailer up the ramp, the bow is now about 2" or more away from the bow roller on the winch stanchion. This is a very common problem. A friend of mine has come up with a solution to this problem by installing a small hydraulic bottle jack with a boat roller attached to it. He places it on his trailer under the bow of the boat and jacks the bow up to the right position while it's still in the water. It works.
ODay 22 trailering
Joe, Thanks for the info. I will look up the book and see what I can find out about gin poles. The trailer has bunks and a wooden guide for the keel which the current owner fabricated. The trailer was not specifically made for this boat, it has a very wide stance and bog fenders on it. I wonder how the fenders will hold up after a few times in the salt water. The idea of the jack sounds neat. I will keep it in mind. Frank, Your reply is encouraging.
Joe, Thanks for the info. I will look up the book and see what I can find out about gin poles. The trailer has bunks and a wooden guide for the keel which the current owner fabricated. The trailer was not specifically made for this boat, it has a very wide stance and bog fenders on it. I wonder how the fenders will hold up after a few times in the salt water. The idea of the jack sounds neat. I will keep it in mind. Frank, Your reply is encouraging.
Trailering & Stepping an1974 O'Day22
I have a O'Day 22 that I trialer every weekend to the local lake. I have a roller/wobble bearing trailer. It trailers fine. As far as stepping the mast, I built a crutch with some left over 2x tubing. You could use wood. I use a trailer roller I bought from a local boating store, and a pair of male pintels, similar to those on the rudder. The crutch needs to be at least 10 feet high to reach that critical point in the leverage. I also bought a small pulley, a dog leash clip, a removable chainlnk clamp, and rope (12-15 feet)from a local hardware store. STEPPING THE MAST. Put the male pintels for the crutch in the female pintels for the rudder. Move the mast onto the crutch. With the mast on the crutch and the pins in the tabernacle, attach the pulley to the front of the boat where you attach the jib tack. I use the removable chainlink for this. Attach your shrouds on the sides. This keeps the mast from swinging side to side thus pulling out your tabernacle. By the way, O'day chainplates are know for breaking. I replaced mine with 4 eye bolts. Run the rope through the pulley and attach the dog leash clamp onto one end. Now attach the dog leash clamp to your forestay. Take the other end of the rope back to the mast. You're going to pull that end while you raise the mast. Get under the mast Pull on the rope while guiding the mast into position. The mast will raise easily. Once the mast is up cleat the rope. If you don't have a cleat handy then grab the main halyard, make sure the other end is attached to the mast, and walk up to the bow and cleat the halyard. Now attach the forestay. You should be go to go. Send me an email at DougKohls@FirehouseNursery.com Subject O'Day 22. If you need pics -Doug
I have a O'Day 22 that I trialer every weekend to the local lake. I have a roller/wobble bearing trailer. It trailers fine. As far as stepping the mast, I built a crutch with some left over 2x tubing. You could use wood. I use a trailer roller I bought from a local boating store, and a pair of male pintels, similar to those on the rudder. The crutch needs to be at least 10 feet high to reach that critical point in the leverage. I also bought a small pulley, a dog leash clip, a removable chainlnk clamp, and rope (12-15 feet)from a local hardware store. STEPPING THE MAST. Put the male pintels for the crutch in the female pintels for the rudder. Move the mast onto the crutch. With the mast on the crutch and the pins in the tabernacle, attach the pulley to the front of the boat where you attach the jib tack. I use the removable chainlink for this. Attach your shrouds on the sides. This keeps the mast from swinging side to side thus pulling out your tabernacle. By the way, O'day chainplates are know for breaking. I replaced mine with 4 eye bolts. Run the rope through the pulley and attach the dog leash clamp onto one end. Now attach the dog leash clamp to your forestay. Take the other end of the rope back to the mast. You're going to pull that end while you raise the mast. Get under the mast Pull on the rope while guiding the mast into position. The mast will raise easily. Once the mast is up cleat the rope. If you don't have a cleat handy then grab the main halyard, make sure the other end is attached to the mast, and walk up to the bow and cleat the halyard. Now attach the forestay. You should be go to go. Send me an email at DougKohls@FirehouseNursery.com Subject O'Day 22. If you need pics -Doug
No problem
Kelly, That looks like a great trailer for that boat, and you are fortunate to have a wife that shares your sailing experiences. My wife has never helped me to rig my boat and although we did a lot of cruises in the late 80s and early 90s, that involved trips to the Cape and Martha's Vineyard for up to a week on our boat, I don't think that she ever really cared about cruising as much as I did. So consequently, I had to do all the rigging myself, which was never a big thing either, because I constructed the crotch to hold my mast and was able to step the mast by myself with no problem. Today, I'm a little older and I couldn't possibly do that again because I lack the energy, but I'm still able to do it once in the spring when I bring my boat down to the club to plop it in, and once in the fall when I take her out for the season. My wife was also very reluctant to take the tiller while I went forward to tend the Jib, and this prompted me to buy an autopilot. With that said; I have to give her a lot of credit for even going on these cruises with me, after some of the harrowing experiences that we had with storms and fog. For a lady who never learned how to swim and has always feared the water, she did quite well. I know for a fact that there are sailors out there like myself, who want to be self sufficient and do it all by themselves, only because there will be a time that they may have to. I was very pleased one day that I could take my mast down single handed when I came back from an overnighter at Potter's Cove, Prudence Is. in Narragansett Bay. After calling for an "open" at the Brightman Street Draw Bridge, I learned that it got stuck in the up position for three solid hours with traffic backed up, and they finally got it down, and it wouldn't be fixed until---the next day! Joe
Kelly, That looks like a great trailer for that boat, and you are fortunate to have a wife that shares your sailing experiences. My wife has never helped me to rig my boat and although we did a lot of cruises in the late 80s and early 90s, that involved trips to the Cape and Martha's Vineyard for up to a week on our boat, I don't think that she ever really cared about cruising as much as I did. So consequently, I had to do all the rigging myself, which was never a big thing either, because I constructed the crotch to hold my mast and was able to step the mast by myself with no problem. Today, I'm a little older and I couldn't possibly do that again because I lack the energy, but I'm still able to do it once in the spring when I bring my boat down to the club to plop it in, and once in the fall when I take her out for the season. My wife was also very reluctant to take the tiller while I went forward to tend the Jib, and this prompted me to buy an autopilot. With that said; I have to give her a lot of credit for even going on these cruises with me, after some of the harrowing experiences that we had with storms and fog. For a lady who never learned how to swim and has always feared the water, she did quite well. I know for a fact that there are sailors out there like myself, who want to be self sufficient and do it all by themselves, only because there will be a time that they may have to. I was very pleased one day that I could take my mast down single handed when I came back from an overnighter at Potter's Cove, Prudence Is. in Narragansett Bay. After calling for an "open" at the Brightman Street Draw Bridge, I learned that it got stuck in the up position for three solid hours with traffic backed up, and they finally got it down, and it wouldn't be fixed until---the next day! Joe
No Day Sailor!
I picked up my "22" at the factory in 1972......36 years later, I still have it! I do not feel that this boat is a very easy "day sailor" in that it would be launched and retreived in the same day. It is a hassle. If you have a "bunk" trailer, you have to get it pretty deep into the water. This can mean that the rear end of your car/truck will be in the water. In fresh water this is not so bad, but in salt water, its very hard on the vehicle (& trailer). My boat is on a mooring all season. If you are really going to launch and retreve in the same day, I would suggest something with a centerboard or swing keel....no fixed keel. Don't get me wrong, the O'Day 22 is the best built boat and one of the safest boats in its class.....after 36 years I think I can say that with some authority. Good Luck!
I picked up my "22" at the factory in 1972......36 years later, I still have it! I do not feel that this boat is a very easy "day sailor" in that it would be launched and retreived in the same day. It is a hassle. If you have a "bunk" trailer, you have to get it pretty deep into the water. This can mean that the rear end of your car/truck will be in the water. In fresh water this is not so bad, but in salt water, its very hard on the vehicle (& trailer). My boat is on a mooring all season. If you are really going to launch and retreve in the same day, I would suggest something with a centerboard or swing keel....no fixed keel. Don't get me wrong, the O'Day 22 is the best built boat and one of the safest boats in its class.....after 36 years I think I can say that with some authority. Good Luck!
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