Trailererable Boats

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Jun 7, 2004
334
Coronado 35 Lake Grapevine, TX
A Few Answers

I hope this will answer some of your questions and concerns. First of all, I think it's important to discern from a trailerable boat and a "dry-sailer". I have a trailerable boat (my O'Day 25). I dont dry-sail it, meaning keep it on my trailer most of the time, and put it in the water when I want to sail. Unlike the power boats you're used to, there's a LOT of work setting up a sailboat of any size once you're ready to sail. I wouldn't recommend trying to dry-sail a boat that big. You'll probably want to move down to the 22' range, and even that is pushing it. Folks that move 30' and larger boats pay a transport company that trucks it out on commercial trucks. They (the trucking company) take care of the permits and such. It's an expensive process, calculated by the mile, with a take down expense at the front end, and set up expense at the other. It's not something that's done "lightly". Most popular boating areas have repair facilities within "reasonable" distances. These repair facilities have hoists that can pull larger boats. Many marinas have them as well. Again, there's usually a hefty fee to pull your boat for repair, in addition to the repair itself. Bottom issues are a little different. Usually, the bottom is taken care of by a mult-phased attack. Typically, the bottom of the boat is painted every 2-4 years with special paint. Often, that's supplemented by hiring someone to clean the boat at the marina. Just to give you a rough idea, I was quoted $600-$700 for a bottom job on my O'Day 25. I chose to paint it myself at less than half the cost. That's a pain in itself though, as it's very toxic paint, and takes some "creativity" to DYI. I pull my boat 1-3 times a year to go other places, and power wash it when I do. However, were I to pay someone, it would be about $60 at my marina to have a diver clean it. Finally, on the topic of "out of production" boats; Steve is right, the O'Day 25 still has PLENTY of support. Any major or minor part can be had, either original equipment or suitable replacements. However that's true of most out of production boats. Boat builders laid up the hulls and decks, basically assembling the boat. They bought the other parts (rails, masts, etc) elsewhere.
 
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Timm R 25 Oday

Another Oday vote

We also have a 25 Oday.It was a replacement for our 22 Catalina.We considered the 25 Catallina.Most of what needs replcement on our boats didn't have to come made specifically for our boat.Most of our work on both boats had more to do with undoing what the former owners had did. We keep our boat on a mooring on the western side of Lake Michigan. We've trailered it 500 miles to southern lakes .We will never pull it with anything less than a half ton.Even then the truck was working.You gotta think stopping all that weight as well. Stepping the mast is possibly the single biggest obstacles that folks find themselves facing. I figured out how to step my mast safely by myself on the water if I have to. The cost in equipment was probably no more than 30 dollars. To have a marina launch and step the mast runs about 500 dollars. I own my mooring.I paid 900 dollars to have it installed.I would much rather have a mooring than a slip.
 
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PATRICK

WHAT YOU GET

Hi, glad you are loving sailing. My first boat was like the venture 21. It was a southcoast 22. Light, easy to raise and lower the mast. 1/2 hour to launch, and less to retrive and go. I dry sailed her for 10 years. Great little boat, pulled it with an import pichup with 4cyl. Then I bought a mac 26d. Much bigger boat all around. Easy to tow, 1/2 ton chevy launch was easy cept the mast took aliitle more to raise. Enclosed head is ok. but you have to crawl around inside-except under the pop top. the m26 sails alittle beter than the sc22, but they are tender-like the 21 your sailing now. Light weight/ dingie class. fun to sail, but not real solid. I recently purchased an oday25 and trailered it from the keys, 400 miles. Left at 0130 am to avoid traffic in Miami. My chevy 1500, 1990 with 170,000 pulled it fine except i needed extra stopping room. No trailer brakes. I bought the boat because I wanted more of a cruiser. Stronger, heavier, more forgiving. Alot of people give sound advice on this website. They would never recommend offshore bluewater sailing in none of these boats. But, for me i much prefer the heavier, stronger, and bigger all around ( i can stand up in the oday, with head lowered cus I'm 6'4") vs the lighter option. Everything is a trade off, lighter is easier to tow, launch and retrieve. But if you are looking for a water condo for the honey, none of them will do. They are all cramped down below.
 
Oct 22, 2005
93
- - Port Alice
My situation and some conclusions

This discussion has been invaluable in helping me to better understand many of the considerations in owning and moving a bigger sailboat and assessing my own situation. I have a house on the Nuerotsis Inlet on the northern end of Vanvouver Island in a community called Port Alice. It is an excellent place to learn to sail, there is only one other sailboat in the community, owned by a nice gentleman who got me interested. We typically have the whole 6 miles of inlet to ourselves with the ocassional powerboat going out to fish. The wind comes up everyday about 10:30 and blows slightly different each day. I can sail my Venture 21 by myslef, but plan to bring the head sail halyard to the cockpit to make it easier to drop. Determined this yeaterday when I had to walk to the bow in a heavy wind to get it down. I have a slip here so do not have to pull the boat. On the other side of the island, 45 miles away by car is the Johnstone Straight and the famous Broughton Islands. Once I get a larger boat, I would love to be able to trailer the boat over there for cruising though the Brougtons. The alternative is a somewhat dangerous passage over the north end of the island via Cape Scott. Not there yet. I am a US citizen, so can only be in Canada for 6 mos of the year. Not sure I could handle the winter rain anyway. When I go back home, I would like to be able to take my sailboat so that I can do some coastal sailing in So. California, including going to Catalina. Based on this discussion I recognize that I must have a trailerable boat, which limits the boat size to 25-26 ft. I do not plan to "dry sail" but to move the boat from one location to another and keep in in a slip. The choices seem to be based on what I have read and the requirement for an enclosed head by my wife. This is clearly overly generalized:: 1. Mac26X: Big motor, lots of power, but perhaps somewhat compromised in sailing. Affordable. 2. Oday 25: Older sturdier boat. Harder to find on west coat. 3. Hunter 24-26; Seem hard to find but sturdy boats-water ballast except for new one. 4. Catalina 25- Seem on par with Hunter and Odsay. Water ballast. Easier to find in the west 5. Com-Pac: My wife really likes the Com Pac, but I haven't read much about it as a sailboat. Another East coast boat hard to find on West Coast. Next step is to start looking at boats first hand and making comparisons. I guess this is another advantage to a trailerable boats, I can look in other locations since I am recently retired. Thank you to those who have posted. Please let me know if I have missed something. Paul
 
Jun 7, 2004
334
Coronado 35 Lake Grapevine, TX
Thanks for the Follow Up

It's great to see how advice is taken. One small note, I don't think Catalina made a water-ballast 25, but I'm no expert on Catalinas. Don't be afraid to look on eBay, there are definitely deals to be made there, and I see 2 or 3 O'Day 25's pop up there every month.
 
Jan 4, 2006
282
West Coast
You're On the Right Track

Paul, wise of you to let your working/living situation delimit your choices: I think you've narrowed down to a pretty good short list. Now you can begin to research each in more depth. Herb, the 250 is a water-ballasted, retractable keel "pocket cruiser" that is completely different than the old, fun & faithful Catalina 25. (See the link)
 
May 23, 2004
3,319
I'm in the market as were . Colonial Beach
Anti-Trailerable

I bought my Hunter 22 to dry sail it. I then traded my F150 for a Ford f-350. If you are going to do the trailerable thing then get something to pull it. I LOVE my F-350 for pulling heavy stuff. The Hunter 22 was a great boat. My wife and I cruised it for 3 seasons. We crossed the Chesapeake bay in it. THe cabin was just to small for long-term cruising. I sold the Hunter 22 and bought the Catalina 30. I love this boat. It is huge in compairson to the H22. I even have a marine shower in this boat. Think about what you are going to do with the boat. If you want to do some open water crusing a Trailerable WON'T work! You need something with a little bit of beef in it. It is also much more comfortable to be in a bigger boat. The heavier boats have much better motion in the seas. Just a thought but I would advise you to write down what you want to do...Then write down what you want and don't want in a boat. Rank the most important things. After all that look for your boat. Look at a HUGE range of boats and get what fits you!
 
Jun 3, 2004
730
Catalina 250 Wing Keel Eugene, OR
Catalina 250 wing keel

The C250 with a wing keel is trailerable and offers better handling than the water ballast model. If money isn't much of a problem then I would suggest a Seaward 25 or 26, they are awesome boats.
 
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George

Trailerable Boats

As long as you are talking about trailerable boats how about the Pacific Seacraft Dana 24? Now that's an awsome boat - A late model used one is only about $100,000 trailer extra. Go to: http://www.pacificseacraft.com/cgi-bin/sitenav.php?2401,sailboats
 
Feb 17, 2006
5,274
Lancer 27PS MCB Camp Pendleton KF6BL
There's a Catalina 25...

With trailer for sale here in San Diego. $14,500. See link. "...Enclosed head w/sink and vanity..."
 
Mar 22, 2004
733
Hunter 30 Vero Beach
Mac 26S

I used to own a Mac 26S. (real sailboat not motorsailer) It had a water balast and a small outboard. It's a really nice boat if you are about 4 ft tall. The pop top only lets you stand up in a small area of the boat. If you want to do any cooking down below, you need to kneel or sit, there is no space to prepare anything. The sink is so small it works great for a garbage can. The head is enclosed, but once again, it's great if you're only 4 ft tall. The best feature is the aft berth. It's huge. If you're a big person like me, it's perfect. The boat sails well with a few aftermarket parts, but doesn't turn a tight radius. With a 5 hp motor, you can have plenty of power for day sailing, and a tank of gas will last a long, long time. I used 3 gallons a year and sailed three days a week. The trip from the harbor to the open water was about 15 min. I sail on a Catalina 25 (Tuesday night beer can races)with a swing keel and prefer it to the Mac 26S by far. Much more head room, nice small but workable galley, useable head, semi comfortable sleeping arrangements, and turns on a dime compared to the Mac. The Catalina is built much stronger and parts are easier to find since there were butt loads of Catalinas made. I'd opt for the Catalina any day. Although, I bought a 1983 Hunter 30 and wouldn't go back to a smaller boat.
 
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