Towing an Inflatable....

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Sumner

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Jan 31, 2009
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Macgregor & Endeavour 26S and 37 Utah's Canyon Country
Last year there was a post of towing an inflatable. There was talk at the time of trying to tow it from the transom vs. the front tow rings. While in Florida I decided to try just that and after towing it for over 75 miles I'm real happy with the results. I didn't tow it with the outboard on the transom, but had it in on the floor. The dinghy tows a lot flatter on the water. I thought I would share what I found to work for us.

Besides using the ......




....folding boarding ladder at the back as a boarding platform we also use it as a tow bar. It keeps the dinghy and the tow lines out of the prop and off the back of the boat. That info is here....

http://purplesagetradingpost.com/sumner/macgregor/outside-17.html

Here is the info on the tow strap that I have cut and pasted from our site:

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We had never had any problems pulling the dinghy, but if the outboard was on it while being towed the bow was quite high. You can see the reason for it above. We were pulling the dinghy with the bow rings (right arrow) on it and they tend to lift the dinghy up as shown in the picture.

The center line in the picture (left) arrow is just a secondary line in case the other line was to break.

I felt a possible solution was to pull the dinghy from the transom instead of the bow. and bought a 30 foot tow strap form a Walmart......


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I left the hook on one end and then cut the strap shorter, but long enough to go from the transom (top arrow) out and over the bow up to the carabiner (bottom arrow) that the original tow straps attach to and then back into the boat about where the seat is (second arrow from the top) and tied it back on itself there.

At night we leave the tow lines attached, but pull the Zodiac up along side and clip a short line that is attached to the lifeline stanchion on the starboard side and has a carabiner on it onto the carabiner on the tow line (bottom right arrow) and then I lower a small blue fender over the side at the same point. The Fender helps to keep the noise from the carabiners down during the night when they tend to click against the side of the Mac
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I added the lines at the bow (2nd arrow up from the bottom) to position the strap there also.

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At the back of the boat (right arrow) I had a line tied from the transom down to the fuel tank (middle arrow). It is there to avoid loosing the tank out of the boat like what....

http://purplesagetradingpost.com/sumner/MacgregorTrips-3-Powell09/09-10-9-Powell-09.html

....happened during the incident at lake Powell.

I hooked the tow strap hook to that line (right arrow). When using the dinghy you just have to unhook the hook and place the strap inside at the bow of the boat. The left arrow points to where I tied the strap back on itself. Tension on the strap can be set by where this knot is tied.

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Here is a picture with the 5 HP Nissan tied in the boat under the seat (top left arrow). The lower unit and prop is also tied to keep it in the middle (bottom right arrow). I also placed the dinghy oars (double sided right arrow) along the sides to protect the sides just in case the outboard shifted. I don't use them much as the dinghy doesn't row that well. Usually I sit on the bow seat and use the kayak paddle (top right arrow) to paddle from the bow. This works well. Also note that all of the oars/paddle are tied in to avoid loosing them.

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Look how much flatter the dinghy now rides in the water and the bow lines are now slack (arrows), so the transom is now taking the strain from the pull and that is pretty considerable if you ever try and hold the tow line while underway.

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We didn't try it with the outboard in the dinghy, but it was on the floor in there while these pictures were taken. I'm really happy with how easy this mod was and how well it has worked pulling the boat to this point (75 miles).
 
May 16, 2007
1,509
Boatless ! 26 Ottawa, Ontario
Hi Sum, long time no talk. Best wishes of the season to you and Ruth.

Interesting idea, have never heard of anyone doing this before.

We tow ours from the 2 D-rings and keep the line short so the bow is kept high, this seems to reduce the drag from the dinghy as well it keeps the line away from the prop if motoring and gives us a bit more speed if sailing with less drag. (I always use a floating type of line to tow the dinghy just in case.)

Do you have any problems with the dinghy going over a big wake or wave when the bow is held down that way ?

fair winds, Bob
 

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Sumner

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Jan 31, 2009
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Macgregor & Endeavour 26S and 37 Utah's Canyon Country
...Do you have any problems with the dinghy going over a big wake or wave when the bow is held down that way ? fair winds, Bob
Hi Bob, Ruth says hi :) and we hope you guys had a good New Years.

We towed it 75 miles like that for about 3/4's of the trip and...



...some of it was along the ICW were we had no problems with wakes. Now saying that our tow line pulls the dinghy...



....right up to the tow bar so it really can't go much of anywhere very far. I had the outboard on the floor and the Zodiac took in no water during any of the trip.

The main reason I wanted to try the strap was to get the strain off the front of the dinghy especially when there was weight in it or the outboard was on the transom.

We only pulled with ....



...the outboard on the transom once for about 10 miles on Lake Powell and it was disconcerning to me with the bow as high as it was in the picture above and we haven't done it since. We are changing from the 5 HP 60 lb. outboard to a 3 1/2 long shaft 40 lb. Tohatsu and I would like to leave it on the transom at times while towing if the conditions are ok. The rest of the time it would be on the dinghy floor or up on ....



..the back of the Mac. I'll try the strap with the new outboard when we go
back down in a couple months.

I had bought and had with me a couple eye bolts and was going to put one on each side of the transom on the inside and run the strap forward in a "V" from them, but decided to try the single strap first and liked it so much that we will go with it unless something comes up.

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On another topic after discussing this with you I did change the way the lazy-jacks are rigged....



..on the stays/mast. I put cheek blocks...



... a little ways up the mast and now there is virtually no down force on the stays even if the....



...boom/sail/sail-pack are only supported by them and not the topping lift.

c ya and have a great year on the water,

Sum

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Jun 2, 2004
5,802
Hunter 37-cutter, '79 41 23' 30"N 82 33' 20"W--------Huron, OH
Did you ever try towing the dinghy with line long enough to ride the second wave behind the boat? Anywhere from the stern back you will find a lot of resistance to pulling on the line. Enough that you could not hold slack for very long. Once you get it riding on that second wave you can pull it with one finger. It really does make a big difference in speed and fuel mileage on a long cruise. And we never towed more than a mile or two with the engine on the dinghy.
 

WayneH

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Jan 22, 2008
1,121
Tartan 37 287 Pensacola, FL
Sumner,

Just a thought for you. When I tow my inflatable, my tow line has a loop on end end that hooks on the aft end of the inflatable tubes, leads forward through the bow eyes and then to my stern cleat. This spreads the loads of the tow line out at the back of the inflatable and reduces the load on the bow eyes to nothing. Well, there is a little load due to the eyes keeping the inflatable facing forward.

Dang, wish I had pictures of the arrangement. I have had to bring my inflatable all the way up to the stern in a following sea to keep it from shipping water. But that still means the tow bridle is pulling from the stern of the inflatable and not the bow eyes.

You'll probably never pull one off but I don't want to take a chance of doing it.
 

Mike B

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Apr 15, 2007
1,013
Beneteau 43 Baltimore, MD
I agree with Ed but will also add that the speed of the mother ship has a lot to do with how it rides. Too slow and the dinghy bow will ride up in the air. There's a relationship between the painter, it's angle and boat speed. Once you're moving well enough along simply let the dinghy ride back until it's riding the face of your stern wake. Once you do that most of the drag is gone. Also make sure there's no water in the dinghy or it will slosh to the back and throw the balance off. I use a double bridle on ours. The first bridle runs from the stern cleats to a short single painter which then attaches to a bridle coming off the two bow tow rings. The double bridle helps provide much better control of the dinghy in rough seas. For the most part it stays tucked in behind the boat rather than swinging all over the place. Note I keep the motor on but in the up position. Not something I'd do on an ocean passage but so far acceptable on the Chesapeake.
 
Jan 22, 2008
8,050
Beneteau 323 Annapolis MD
Sum : "I had bought and had with me a couple eye bolts and was going to put one on each side of the transom on the inside and run the strap forward in a "V" from them, but decided to try the single strap first and liked it so much that we will go with it unless something comes up."

My dingy already had u-bolts on the outside of the transom when I got it. To save drilling more holes, on the inside I took a nut off each one and replaced it with an eye-nut. Tie-downs inside and out!
 

Sumner

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Jan 31, 2009
5,254
Macgregor & Endeavour 26S and 37 Utah's Canyon Country
Did you ever try towing the dinghy with line long enough to ride the second wave behind the boat?....
The line we have can be let out to any length and we've towed with the line out, but to tell you the truth haven't noticed any difference as far as drag on the boat. Maybe it is the inflatable we have or who knows. On the Florida trip we were towing between 3 and about 6 knots depending on the conditions and how much of a hurry we are in (never much).

We are cruisers never in a hurry and had bad experiences with the inflatable on a long line. Now we love it up against the tow bar (ladder). We put it there and then we just forget it regardless of the conditions. It works great for us so far in all conditions and we have been through a bunch of them :cry:.

I wanted to post on pulling from the stern as it had come up last year and this method might be the ticket for someone else also, but I realize we all have different ways of doing things.

Thanks for the other input guys,

Sum

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Jul 1, 2004
567
Hunter 40 St. Petersburg
We never tow.

Okay, maybe once in a great while for a short line-of-sight hop.

The problems I anticipate are that if the dink is in the water and conditions deteriorate rapidly in open water it's likely you'll not be able to do anything with a dink that has swamped/flipped/whatever.

It looks like your set-up works well for you for the cruising you do and that's good. I just have this little voice that says "things work great until they don't."
 

Sumner

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Jan 31, 2009
5,254
Macgregor & Endeavour 26S and 37 Utah's Canyon Country
....It looks like your set-up works well for you for the cruising you do and that's good. I just have this little voice that says "things work great until they don't."
Yep, we hopefully are not going to be out in heavy seas in our 26 foot boat. We are inland and coastal sailors. Our 26 footer is too small to have the dinghy stored on-board. If I had a boat the size of yours it would be store deflated or on davits. Some guys with boats like ours that have gone to the Bahamas have deflated them and carried them on deck.

Personally if I was going over there with our boat I would wait for a really good weather window and still tow the boat and take the chance of loosing it, but have it handy if for any reason I needed it.

c ya,

Sum

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Jul 1, 2004
567
Hunter 40 St. Petersburg
You make good points.

You have to understand that I'm a weather pessimist. It comes from sailing in a state during which several months a year the thunderstorms rise up quickly enough to kick your ass no matter what you do.

Thanks for sharing.
 
Dec 2, 2003
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Hunter 376 Warsash, England --
The Black Blancmange!

Sorry to come late to the party but I lost this item which I wrote for our Practical Boat Owner magazine in 1999 and only today came across it again.
It may amuse some people.
 

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May 4, 2005
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Macgregor 26d Ft Lauderdale, Fl
I would seriously rethink towing a ding across the gulf stream. or any open sea in So Fla.

in the summer, storms come up fast, maybe 1 hour, from clear blue to big thunderheads.

They flip, then become an anchor, pulling the stern into the waves. and risking the primary boat. all during a violent T-storm...

and most are not willing to cut the dink free, thus risking everything to save the dingy.

how big is the dink Sum? 12'?
I think it should fit upside down on the deck, upside down. (but you have to close the hatch).
 
Jul 1, 2004
567
Hunter 40 St. Petersburg
Thanks for sharing Don

I know it's not easy sharing "learning experiences" with those of us who should know better but I really appreciate it. In fact, I may be the master of those what-the-hell-was-I-thinking moments. I certainly have the torn sails and broken parts to prove it.

Mr. Bill, your comment at the end of your post is exactly what we plan to do when we cruise further afield. I plan on pulling out the screwed-in teak handrails and installing through-bolted stainless ones that we can use to strap an overturned and partially deflated RIB. This would leave the side decks free of straps for one less tripping hazard for going forward. If the dink has a folding transom it shouldn't obstruct visibility forward and as a bonus it would cover our four forward hatches and provide additional protection against boarding waves.
 

DannyS

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May 27, 2004
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Beneteau 393 Bayfield, Wi
Mr. Bill, we have an 11' + dinghy and a 35' boat and the dinghy JUST fits on the foredeck. In fact, the tubes extend past the mast. I'm not sure an 8 footer, let alone a 12 footer would make it on a 26 foot boat either inflated or partially deflated.
Some are resigned to making due with towing, which is what we and most boats in our area do 90% of the time with little problem. Mostly island hopping around here. But if we head out across Lake Superior, we carry ours on deck.
 

Sumner

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Jan 31, 2009
5,254
Macgregor & Endeavour 26S and 37 Utah's Canyon Country
....how big is the dink Sum? 12'?
I think it should fit upside down on the deck, upside down. (but you have to close the hatch).
It is 9 feet. Not sure it would go on the deck. I could deflate it and put it below. I also would not hesitate to cut it loose if needed.

For us the problem may never come up as we have no intentions of making the crossing any time soon ;).

Thanks guys for the input,

Sum

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