Towing a Dinghy with Outboard On

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RAD

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Jun 3, 2004
2,330
Catalina 30 Bay Shore, N.Y.
Nick,

Storing on deck seems like the way to go but there sooooooo long I guess they might fit sitting on the bow rail and hanging over forward cause I have a centercockpit so forward deck space is limited or I thought maybe on the aft cabin top and on the dink that hanging from the davits and the rest overhanging the dink. Another project to play with in the spring
 

RAD

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Jun 3, 2004
2,330
Catalina 30 Bay Shore, N.Y.
Nick,

Storing on deck seems like the way to go but there sooooooo long I guess they might fit sitting on the bow rail and hanging over forward cause I have a centercockpit so forward deck space is limited or I thought maybe on the aft cabin top and on the dink that hanging from the davits and the rest overhanging the dink. Another project to play with in the spring
 

RAD

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Jun 3, 2004
2,330
Catalina 30 Bay Shore, N.Y.
Nick,

Storing on deck seems like the way to go but there sooooooo long I guess they might fit sitting on the bow rail and hanging over forward cause I have a centercockpit so forward deck space is limited or I thought maybe on the aft cabin top and on the dink that hanging from the davits and the rest overhanging the dink. Another project to play with in the spring
 

RAD

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Jun 3, 2004
2,330
Catalina 30 Bay Shore, N.Y.
Nick,

Storing on deck seems like the way to go but there sooooooo long I guess they might fit sitting on the bow rail and hanging over forward cause I have a centercockpit so forward deck space is limited or I thought maybe on the aft cabin top and on the dink that hanging from the davits and the rest overhanging the dink. Another project to play with in the spring
 
Dec 2, 2003
4,245
- - Seabeck WA
We were exiting Hole in the Wall two years ago

Headed west to Octopus Islands towing our Avon 11.5 RIB with full stores/fuel and 25HP Yamaha mounted. (Desolation Sound area) It was blowing like STINK! The closer we got to the exit of the Hole the harder it blew. Then it started to BLOW. I looked at the anemometer and it said 60kts on the beam. Then it started to really blow. No sails were up. I'm not dumb. Then the boat was blown over and heeled past 45 degrees on its' bare pole and the wind started to scream. We exited the Hole and turned. (somehow) Then it let up. Never had a chance to even think of the dingy. It was fine. Wonder how hard it blew? In 35 years on the water, that was the highest wind I ever experienced.
 
Dec 2, 2003
4,245
- - Seabeck WA
We were exiting Hole in the Wall two years ago

Headed west to Octopus Islands towing our Avon 11.5 RIB with full stores/fuel and 25HP Yamaha mounted. (Desolation Sound area) It was blowing like STINK! The closer we got to the exit of the Hole the harder it blew. Then it started to BLOW. I looked at the anemometer and it said 60kts on the beam. Then it started to really blow. No sails were up. I'm not dumb. Then the boat was blown over and heeled past 45 degrees on its' bare pole and the wind started to scream. We exited the Hole and turned. (somehow) Then it let up. Never had a chance to even think of the dingy. It was fine. Wonder how hard it blew? In 35 years on the water, that was the highest wind I ever experienced.
 
Dec 2, 2003
4,245
- - Seabeck WA
We were exiting Hole in the Wall two years ago

Headed west to Octopus Islands towing our Avon 11.5 RIB with full stores/fuel and 25HP Yamaha mounted. (Desolation Sound area) It was blowing like STINK! The closer we got to the exit of the Hole the harder it blew. Then it started to BLOW. I looked at the anemometer and it said 60kts on the beam. Then it started to really blow. No sails were up. I'm not dumb. Then the boat was blown over and heeled past 45 degrees on its' bare pole and the wind started to scream. We exited the Hole and turned. (somehow) Then it let up. Never had a chance to even think of the dingy. It was fine. Wonder how hard it blew? In 35 years on the water, that was the highest wind I ever experienced.
 
Dec 2, 2003
4,245
- - Seabeck WA
We were exiting Hole in the Wall two years ago

Headed west to Octopus Islands towing our Avon 11.5 RIB with full stores/fuel and 25HP Yamaha mounted. (Desolation Sound area) It was blowing like STINK! The closer we got to the exit of the Hole the harder it blew. Then it started to BLOW. I looked at the anemometer and it said 60kts on the beam. Then it started to really blow. No sails were up. I'm not dumb. Then the boat was blown over and heeled past 45 degrees on its' bare pole and the wind started to scream. We exited the Hole and turned. (somehow) Then it let up. Never had a chance to even think of the dingy. It was fine. Wonder how hard it blew? In 35 years on the water, that was the highest wind I ever experienced.
 
Dec 2, 2003
1,637
Hunter 376 Warsash, England --
I Did It - Once

We were late setting out and all our pals had left an hour before. No time to deflate and stow the dink. Set off with it in tow with outboard on transom. Wind got up and we were broad reaching and surfing down waves with me steering only to prevent the dink from flying. Arrived at a headland where there was a tide-race. Also needed to check course so had the chart shown to me in the companion way. Took my eye off the dink. There was a 'plop'. Looked over stern and now towing dink upside down at tremendous speed. There was another 'plop' and now only towing a rubber patch! Went back and came alongside and lassoed the prop now waving gaily in the breeze. It proceeded to bite large chunks of glass out of the hull. Two of us struggled to right the dink - but then it was full of water. Next I said I must get into it to bail it out. Recall hearing plaintive female voice saying "Please don't leave me alone on this boat" - too late I was gone. Eventually succeeded in getting it bailed out and back on board and deflated and stowed. Then went below and was thoroughly sick for the remainder of the voyage. What I should have done was call the coastguard and say anyone finding my dink please give it a decent burial. I don't learn from my successes but sure as hell learn from my mistakes. Yes - I did it once - but never again.
 
Dec 2, 2003
1,637
Hunter 376 Warsash, England --
I Did It - Once

We were late setting out and all our pals had left an hour before. No time to deflate and stow the dink. Set off with it in tow with outboard on transom. Wind got up and we were broad reaching and surfing down waves with me steering only to prevent the dink from flying. Arrived at a headland where there was a tide-race. Also needed to check course so had the chart shown to me in the companion way. Took my eye off the dink. There was a 'plop'. Looked over stern and now towing dink upside down at tremendous speed. There was another 'plop' and now only towing a rubber patch! Went back and came alongside and lassoed the prop now waving gaily in the breeze. It proceeded to bite large chunks of glass out of the hull. Two of us struggled to right the dink - but then it was full of water. Next I said I must get into it to bail it out. Recall hearing plaintive female voice saying "Please don't leave me alone on this boat" - too late I was gone. Eventually succeeded in getting it bailed out and back on board and deflated and stowed. Then went below and was thoroughly sick for the remainder of the voyage. What I should have done was call the coastguard and say anyone finding my dink please give it a decent burial. I don't learn from my successes but sure as hell learn from my mistakes. Yes - I did it once - but never again.
 
Dec 2, 2003
1,637
Hunter 376 Warsash, England --
I Did It - Once

We were late setting out and all our pals had left an hour before. No time to deflate and stow the dink. Set off with it in tow with outboard on transom. Wind got up and we were broad reaching and surfing down waves with me steering only to prevent the dink from flying. Arrived at a headland where there was a tide-race. Also needed to check course so had the chart shown to me in the companion way. Took my eye off the dink. There was a 'plop'. Looked over stern and now towing dink upside down at tremendous speed. There was another 'plop' and now only towing a rubber patch! Went back and came alongside and lassoed the prop now waving gaily in the breeze. It proceeded to bite large chunks of glass out of the hull. Two of us struggled to right the dink - but then it was full of water. Next I said I must get into it to bail it out. Recall hearing plaintive female voice saying "Please don't leave me alone on this boat" - too late I was gone. Eventually succeeded in getting it bailed out and back on board and deflated and stowed. Then went below and was thoroughly sick for the remainder of the voyage. What I should have done was call the coastguard and say anyone finding my dink please give it a decent burial. I don't learn from my successes but sure as hell learn from my mistakes. Yes - I did it once - but never again.
 
Dec 2, 2003
1,637
Hunter 376 Warsash, England --
I Did It - Once

We were late setting out and all our pals had left an hour before. No time to deflate and stow the dink. Set off with it in tow with outboard on transom. Wind got up and we were broad reaching and surfing down waves with me steering only to prevent the dink from flying. Arrived at a headland where there was a tide-race. Also needed to check course so had the chart shown to me in the companion way. Took my eye off the dink. There was a 'plop'. Looked over stern and now towing dink upside down at tremendous speed. There was another 'plop' and now only towing a rubber patch! Went back and came alongside and lassoed the prop now waving gaily in the breeze. It proceeded to bite large chunks of glass out of the hull. Two of us struggled to right the dink - but then it was full of water. Next I said I must get into it to bail it out. Recall hearing plaintive female voice saying "Please don't leave me alone on this boat" - too late I was gone. Eventually succeeded in getting it bailed out and back on board and deflated and stowed. Then went below and was thoroughly sick for the remainder of the voyage. What I should have done was call the coastguard and say anyone finding my dink please give it a decent burial. I don't learn from my successes but sure as hell learn from my mistakes. Yes - I did it once - but never again.
 

higgs

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Aug 24, 2005
3,704
Nassau 34 Olcott, NY
North channel

A year ago I got caught at anchorage with winds over 100. Nearby a boat photographed a readout at 120. As that storm hit I saw one boat's dinghy, without engine, trailing straight off the stern, 5 feet off the water and spinning! that was the last thing I remember seeing before the rain hit. My dinghy was tied to bow and stern with the engine on and was OK.
 

higgs

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Aug 24, 2005
3,704
Nassau 34 Olcott, NY
North channel

A year ago I got caught at anchorage with winds over 100. Nearby a boat photographed a readout at 120. As that storm hit I saw one boat's dinghy, without engine, trailing straight off the stern, 5 feet off the water and spinning! that was the last thing I remember seeing before the rain hit. My dinghy was tied to bow and stern with the engine on and was OK.
 

higgs

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Aug 24, 2005
3,704
Nassau 34 Olcott, NY
North channel

A year ago I got caught at anchorage with winds over 100. Nearby a boat photographed a readout at 120. As that storm hit I saw one boat's dinghy, without engine, trailing straight off the stern, 5 feet off the water and spinning! that was the last thing I remember seeing before the rain hit. My dinghy was tied to bow and stern with the engine on and was OK.
 

higgs

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Aug 24, 2005
3,704
Nassau 34 Olcott, NY
North channel

A year ago I got caught at anchorage with winds over 100. Nearby a boat photographed a readout at 120. As that storm hit I saw one boat's dinghy, without engine, trailing straight off the stern, 5 feet off the water and spinning! that was the last thing I remember seeing before the rain hit. My dinghy was tied to bow and stern with the engine on and was OK.
 

Rick D

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Jun 14, 2008
7,182
Hunter Legend 40.5 Shoreline Marina Long Beach CA
Spinning Dinghys

I had to laugh at that Higgs. 20 years ago, I was in Santa Catalina's Avalon port when a cold Santa Ana blew in. My dink hung off the stern with the outboard on and twisted in the wind, eventually landing upside down. It was a lightweight dink with a light OB. I had no light lube oil around, so I stripped the engine, washed in fresh water, and put my daughter's suntan oil on it. It ran great but smelled like a packed beach every time I ran it after that. BTW, I tow a small rigid dink everywhere. I tow it with a bridle which gives it a pretty solid and stable attach point. I have never come close to flipping it and only once had to let it out to about 40' in big and fast following seas so it wouldn't climb up the stern. Sometimes I tow it with the small OB on it. It actually handles a bit better with it on than not, altho I don't make a habit of it. The dink only weighs 80 pounds and the OB 28. However, I once almost flipped it going a chop and 30 knots of wind with too much throttle and me sitting too far back. Won't do that again! Rick D.
 

higgs

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Aug 24, 2005
3,704
Nassau 34 Olcott, NY
One nice thing about two strokes

As long as you can recover a two stroke, they do dry out nicely. I have had mine take a dunking several times. I was on a mooring and coming in, overan the painter which pulled the bow of the hard dinghy down allowing some water into it. The guy with me said he would bail so I went below to close the big boat up after the sail. In a few minutes I heard a meek voice call my name a few times. I came out and couldn't see my buddy until I looked over the transom. He was treading water and the dinghy was nowhere in sight. He had not anticipated how unstable that dinghy would be half full of water, but found our real quick. The dinghy, with motor attached, was still attached to the painter, but now underwater. I got a good laugh out of it and he bought the beers in an attempt to shut me up - which of course - didn't work.
 
Jun 8, 2004
550
Macgregor 26M Delta, B.C. Canada 26M not X
It is a wrestling match!

Stu Jackson wrote: "If the engine's 60# how the heck do you even get it on the dinghy in the first place?" I am a hobby body builder, I use brute force, but 60# is the Max I will wrestle with! The dink is 80# I use a dolly to move it around deflated then inflate it at the dock. I tried wrestling this beast upon to the foredeck one time and it exhausted me, this why I tow it, also there is nowhere to attach the 60# engine on the boat so it has to remain on the dink transome. After reading some of the responses in this thread it becomes apparent that sea conditions are the influencing factor. So why is it that some individuals are so determined to challenge Mother Nature and her fury. Even though the guy citing Desolation Sound did not lose his dink I still cannot imagine wanting to face such a wrath of nature. I only tow my dink when on an extended trip (a few times per year) the remaining sailing time it remains at home. If the weather gets threatening we simply remain where we are or seek safe harbour immediately. In the PNW it is usually only a short distance to safety, not that difficult, add to that the availabilty of up to the minute weather forecasts, not to mention the stability of weather patterns and I have to wonder how any responsible sailor could find themselves in a situation. I am a beginner with only a few seasons under my belt and a Power Squadron course yet I am able to avoid an unpleasant situation, If I can do it as a beginner what is the problem for more seasoned boaters? Do some people just head out there and take their chances, no weather checks or forecast checks? I find that for the most part as long as I practice due diligence the risk of losing my dink is minimal even with the outboard attached. On another note if I was careless and struck a rock and started sinking at least my dink is right there, inflated with engine ready to start and get me out alive.
 
Feb 26, 2004
22,982
Catalina 34 224 Maple Bay, BC, Canada
Maurice Griffiths wrote that the way to avoid

having the dink come up from behind you is to trail a warp attached to its transom. He wrote this in 1922. It still works.
 
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